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colorado vs samoa red and COSTCO auto program by www
May 17, 2004 (7:53 am)
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Can someone clue me in on when the color swotch happened? If I am going to buy a Passat wagon in colorado, should I be getting a better deal than on a samoa one, i.e should the dealers be trying to get rid of colorado?
 
Second question - has anyone had experience in buying a VW through the COSTCO Auto Program??
 
Thanks
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need help w/ new purchase by cmstea0
May 20, 2004 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: taft4 (Apr 29, 2004 4:29 pm)

hey everyone,
i'm thinking about purchasing a new VW passat 1.8t auto GLS. this is my first new car purchase and i'm wondering if you all had any useful advice for me - i haven't decided on the passat yet, but it's at the top of my list. i spoke to a dealer (who could probably tell that i was young and hadn't ever done this sort of thing before) and he quoted me a final price (after taxes, fees, and incentives) that was right at the MSRP. i figured that was too high, and i've seen here that a lot of you are paying at or below invoice on your new cars. what's your secret?
 
i'd be more than happy to listen to any advice you all want to give me.
 
thanks,
chris
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cmst by fish8
May 20, 2004 (10:18 am)
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There are several incentives on the Passat so you will be able to get a GLS for less than MSRP. On Edmunds home site, look at the incentives and rebates section. I believe there is at least $2000 in rebates. Not sure of the fine print though. A GLS (depending on options) could be had for around $21,000 or so) Just negotiate and look at the sticker price, not MSRP.
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Buying a car by taft4
May 21, 2004 (12:00 pm)
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Chris:
 
I guess that you will get a number of suggestions on how to buy, some at variance with others, because we all go at it in different ways.
 
From my experience over many years, I would say the first thing is to know exactly what vehicle model you want, and exactly what options you wish to add to the car. If you keep changing your wants during the negotiations, it is going to be hard to keep track of the changing prices.
 
Next, I would go to a source such as Edmunds and get the MSRP (the manufacturer's sticker price) and the dealer invoice price and print them out. When you are at the dealers don't hesitate to have the sheet in front of you so the sales person knows you have some knowledge of their prices. Edmunds will also show you a suggested purchase price, which can be helpful, but which at times I have found to be high.
 
I live in the Chicago Metro area where we have good libraries so I usually go to one of them, get the latest Automotive News (a weekly) from their shelf and look up current dealer incentives and customer rebates. These are usually shown in every issue on the last page or two of the publication. Edmunds also has a section showing "dealer incentives" and our Chicago Tribune each Sunday publishes similar figures, and so your newspaper may do the same.
 
I usually start bargaining at invoice less incentives, realizing that I will have to move up over that. Lots of time you will find that people tell you they paid a lot less for their car then they really did, for it's an ego thing.
 
I realize that each state handles their taxes and other charges differently. In Illinois the tax, depending on the country you live in, is about 7.5%, and then there is a document fee, and a license application or license transfer fee, and these three add up to a substantial amount.
 
You should also decide to yourself, before entering the dealership, whether you are going to pay cash (few young people can afford to do that), or how much you are going to finance and for how long. You can even ask your local bank what they would charge you.
 
Since you are young, it might be wise to take an older person with you, if you are comfortable with that, when you go into negotiate this first car purchase.
 
It surely would be advisable to get more than one dealer's price if you have a number of dealers in your area. There are some locations where you can send an email to nearby dealers for a quote. I have never done that, prefering face-to-face bargaining, so I don't know how well that would work.
 
Lastly, and many here may dispute this, go in dressed up to the hilt. You want the playing field as level as possible, and looking like a slob only gets you sloppy treatment. Appearances can impress the salesperson contrary to what others may think.
 
Good luck.
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Needed TODAY by kirstie_h HOST
May 21, 2004 (12:16 pm)
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A newspaper reporter is looking to interview people who recently bought a vehicle and considered its fuel economy as a major factor - or chose to ignore its fuel economy and bought it anyway. Please respond to pkrebsedmunds.com with your daytime contact info and a line about your purchase decision no later than 5pm Pacific on Friday, May 21, 2004.
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Re: Buying a car [taft4 #2342] by cmstea0
May 23, 2004 (5:56 pm)
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Replying to: taft4 (May 21, 2004 12:00 pm)

Thanks for the advice taft!
I've gotten three quotes from the dealer on my desired passat (GLS 1.8, auto, leather w/ wood, ESP) and the best i've found is 24,700 after all taxes and fees. that's less than the TMV, but i don't know whether to get the car when i plan to (end of june) or wait until closer to the end of the year to try and get a better deal. does anyone know what kind of incentives VW will offer towards the end of the year?
 
thanks in advance
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Re: Buying a car [cmstea0 #2344] by jason1635
May 23, 2004 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: cmstea0 (May 23, 2004 5:56 pm)

what is your price before TTL. I am in hawaii and bought an identical GLS auto with leather wood/esp for 24,500 +350 sales tax, 185 doc fee 144 registration. This was about 1,000 under invoice including dealer mktg fees, etc. Also got the 1.9% financing which saved me about a grand from my prearranged 3.5 financing. Got very fair 17,700 trade on my 03 accord coupe. if you are in a different part of the country, you might be able to get this car for 23,500 +TTL with 1.9 financing, i would think. Others may have better info, but I think that would be reasonable. dealers are not giving away this car but, with mktg incentives negotiations should vary between invoice and 2K under invoice. Invoice is about 25K + any locally incurred port/mktg fees.
Hope this helps. I dont think prices will go down much more, depreciation on an 04 will more than makeup for a couple of hundred in extra savings. just my two cents,aloha jason
By the way its a great car, more fun to drive than my 240hp accord coupe by lots! Knock on wood it will remain reliable. will be getting the GIAC engine and tiptronic chips for about 1K more to increase HP/torque by 40/50 and increase tip shifting time.
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cms by fish8
May 24, 2004 (3:26 am)
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I also will be getting into a Passat in August and have wondered what kind of incentives will be offered at that time. Unfortunately, there really is no way of know what will be offered at that time. From what I can gather from talking with several dealers and folks online, there will most likely be incentives on Passats through the end of the year. It seems like VW is trying to keep Passat and Jetta sales up before the new models arrive in '05.
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Re: Buying a car [jason1635 #2345] by cmstea0
May 24, 2004 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: jason1635 (May 23, 2004 7:09 pm)

I've just recieved price quotes of 24,300 "on the road" from a local dealer, but he mentioned that this is only good until the end of May, which probably reflects the end of the Spring Sales drive. I'm going to try my hardest to get the dealer to stick to this price for end of june when i plan on purchasing.
 
Another question, when the dealers quote an "on the road" price is this really the final, absolute price of the car? I don't want to arrive at the Dealership with a check for 24.3K only to find out that there are a slew of "final costs" or "prep fees" that weren't mentioned over the phone/internet.
 
Glad to hear that the Passat is more fun to drive than the Accord w/ 240hp. That was actually my 2nd choice. Are the modifications you mentioned easy to do? Expensive? Whom would you recommend them to?
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cms by fish8
May 24, 2004 (11:18 am)
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I would think it won't be hard to get a similar deal in June, July or Aug. The sales person I was dealing with told me she believes that VW will continue to offer some sort of incentives on Passats.
 
As far as fees go: you may also be hit with a Doc fee. The dealer I was working with included a $398 Doc fee and tag fee which was around $30 all of these fees were NOT included in the initial $ work up. Good Luck.

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