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Volkswagen Passat Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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JPS by sschilf
Feb 20, 2003 (4:54 am)
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Sounds like you have a good initial quote. Buying at invoice, which you are doing, is the max I would purchase at. Remember there is almost $1000 (vci incentives and holdback)in rebates the dealer is making off of you. I would negotiate at least another 500 to 750 more. Last, refuse to pay doc, port, ad, etc fees. See my other posts for explanations.
 
Good luck.
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Here are my results by donpetry
Feb 20, 2003 (6:35 am)
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Bought a Passat Wagon GLS last night. Fully loaded- tiptronic, leather, homelink, ESP, Monsoon, Cold Weather. Paid $24,900 plus MA tax/title/inspection. Couldn't refuse the financing deal too good to pass up.
 
I hope my wife loves the car. We pick it up Saturday AM.
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Stephen... by vwguild
Feb 20, 2003 (9:05 am)
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I hope you give your children better advice than you are providing here.
 
Following your formula the Dealer would be better
served donating the car to the local Police Dept.
or the Red Cross.
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vwguild by sschilf
Feb 20, 2003 (9:16 am)
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You are a dealer, right? Your best interest is making money for yourself! I am only helping out consumers.
 
I know dealers are awarded $1000 (maybe more?!?) for each Passat sold. There is no magic to this number.
 
I suggested to JPS to negotiate 750 of the 1000. That is fair. Personally, I would go for 1000 or even more.
 
Besides, dealers' main cash cow is service/repairs (and evidently they are making a killing with all the coil failures!!).
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ss by im_brentwood
Feb 20, 2003 (9:21 am)
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Not to be rude here..
 
But you are a tad less informed than you think.
 
I have been offered $500 under invoice but I still see some 'fat' to cut. Also, I am NOT paying those ticky tacky doc, port reserve, etc fees.
 
Dealers do pay those fees. Bear in mind, the vehicle invoice is manufacturer to dealer "invoice" for the car. I.E. what the dealer pays. Therefore, it's an internal document and not one designed for ease of use by consumers!
 
There comes a point, to me, where you can analuze something to death IMO.
 
Bill
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price expectations for 5-speed GLS (vwguild) by hlb1
Feb 20, 2003 (9:37 am)
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vwguild --
 
In an earlier post (#1967) you suggested that for a 5-speed Passat, one should offer the difference bewteen MSRP & Invoice.
 
I'm confused. The difference between MSRP and invoice is only a few thousand dollars. What did you mean?
 
Also, does this advice hold true for a 5-speed GLS with a V6?
 
Thanks.
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Stephen... by vwguild
Feb 20, 2003 (10:35 am)
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Your last comment regarding making a "killing on coil failures" renders you totally impotent to add
anything worthwhile to this conversation
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Hank... by vwguild
Feb 20, 2003 (10:48 am)
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You are correct, this difference is very small...
 
5 Speeds represent less than 10% of total availability...If the difference is $1000.00; divide in half.
 
This is a national forum; so I always make suggestions that are general and not specific to a given deal. The conditions that exist in No. Calif. maybe totally different in Ohio, or Texas, or Maine.
 
Of late I have heard of Dealers making offers that are so rediculous they are not be believed,
only to discover they do not even have the car they are quoting on and have no chance of even getting it. What they are basically saying is...
"I am not going to make this deal, but neither will anyone else." I do not understand why anyone would do that because there is no benefactor...everybody loses...most importantly...The Customer.
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Keep chargin', vwguild by steveholly
Feb 20, 2003 (10:58 am)
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The idea that a recall of the coils is "a killing" for the dealers is incredibly short-sighted.
The information provided to the readers of this board by people like vwguild is very valuable.
I'm betting Stephen searches discount stores for the right price on a toothbrush, for heavens sake.
 
It's simple:
Get informed (thank you, vwguild!), do your homework, make the deal and enjoy!
 
Steve (2003 GLS, Indigo, 5 speed - and loving it!)

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