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3318 messages, Last post on Nov 12, 2009 at 9:57 AM
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Hi, I'm new to this newsgroup but have been reading the messages for a while. I finally got down to looking at the VW Passat (to replace my aging but still reliable 1988 Accord). I have been looking for a 1.8T manual GLS with leather package, homelink and the monsoon system. The color scheme is fresco green metallic/gray leather. This seems to be almost impossible to find as most VWs come with either both luxury and leather or none at all. One dealer has offered me a price of $23,660 for the above car + luxury package (after some negotiation) which is below the Edmunds TMV of $24,225 when I last checked it, but also insists on a dealer service fee of $387 (in addition to all the usual documentation, tax, title, license fees) which provides (a) inscribing the VIN number (b) provinding a shuttle service when you bring the car in for service and (c) a loaner if you leave the car for more than 24 hours. I told him I wasn't interested in the DSF but they insist that it is non-negotiable and that "all import dealers" in charge something similar. Wasn't the case when I bought my Civic 5 years ago. What do you guys think of the price? I'm just looking for a fair deal but I assume they are willing to price the car lower than the TMV because it is at the end of the year and they may have some extra incentives (does this really make a difference?). Any advice/info you guys can provide is appreciated. |
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I'm wondering where Steve got the Auto GLX for $29,480. Also, how do the Costco and/or AAA prices compare? And lastly, how much should I expect to pay for tax and license in California? |
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It looks like 2002 passats are selling for less than TMV or selling close to invoice+ $200. My questions are, - 2002 GLX AWD Sedan invoice is $29,016. How much is it in San Jose ? - What is the best deal anybody has got for 2002 GLX AWD and where ? |
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I am looking at a Passat GLS 1.8T manual. The MSRP is $22,755; Edmund's invoice of $20,742 is close to the $20,829 that the dealer showed me. Edmund's TMV of $21,178 is close to the $21,000 + $299 "administration fee" quoted by the dealer - except that this car has been "driven by a manager" and has 3100 miles on it! From reading elsewhere about demo pricing, I am under the impression that the additional negotiating room on demos can be as little as 10 cents a mile, unless there are manufacturer incentives. I am wondering whether VW provides any dealer incentives for demos of this model. I have also read elsewhere that VW may extend the warranty by the number of miles on the demo. Is this automatic, or does it apply only under certain conditions (such as to cars with at least 5000 demo miles)? |
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Warranty can be extended to cover the existing mileage...it costs the Dealer a couple hundred bucks for the B2B Component; the PowerTrain is free...It is NOT Automatic...you will have to make sure that it is included in your deal... And there is no Incentive $$$$ for any 2002 cars... |
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Thanks for the information! I am not going to pursue the demo option, in view of the excellent prices for brand-new Passats that have been reported here. |
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I just bought the Passat GLS 1.8T manual with luxury/leather/monsoon/homelink I mentioned in an earlier post for $400 (including the Dealer Service Fee) below the Edmonds TMV. I probably could have got a better price if I had not wanted a particular color combination which was not available at any of the other dealerships in town. Good luck with your hunt for a Passat - I think you can do better (price wise) for a new car than the used one you mentioned. |
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I would take all of these claims with a grain of salt...There is no truth meter here... Needless to say, it will depend upon where you live, Inventories & management...It will also depend upon how pricing is perceived...In Calif. and I am sure elsewhere, a favored ploy is to offer a car at a # over Invoice(Base) and then add Destination($550), Port Prep($25), FloorPlan INTEREST Reserve($92), and then possibly, a Regional Ad Fee. All of which a REAL Charges, but should be added to make for an "All Inclusive" Invoice price...I would be more than happy to fax to you an Invoice so that you can see what I am talking about... The only Volkswagens that are being sold for Invoice or below are 2001s that are carrying Incentive Money from VWOA, or those that have all of the above mentioned fees added in after the fact...Or where the Dealer is making money on the spread between *Buy rate* & *Sell rate*... This Brand has not had a "Distress" Product since the launch of the New Passat in 1997. |
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Thanks for the additional information. I am looking at the base GLS 1.8T 5M. Edmunds says the invoice price is $20,340, which includes the destination charge but no additional fees, and says the True Market Value is $20,765. CarsDirect says that the invoice price is $20,547, again including destination charges but also including "an estimate of additional fees charged by the manufacturer to the dealer". They post a price of $21,747, which I presume is what I would actually pay (plus tax and tag) if I bought from them. My inclination is to do more research, and see if this car can bought for about the TMV. |
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