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has this changed by joel0622
Mar 17, 2007 (7:27 am)
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Just curious if this has changed.
 
Back in 1988 while I was still in the military I got stationed in Germany for 3 years. I decided to ship my car with me seeing I was going to be there for 3 years. Before I could pick it up in Germany I had to have the catlytic converter removed, so when it comes off the boat you sit in line and have a AAFES shop remove the converter. fast forward 3 years, whe nI brought it home I had to have the Converter put back on to pass inspection in the states.
 
Do they build cars for sale in the US with the converter and cars for sale in Europe without? Or do the Europeans now use a catlytic converter on there cars?
 
BTW if there is anyone who is ever going to go over seas with the Military don't go through the hassle of taking a car. You can pick one up for a song from someone getting ready to come home that needs to dump there ride. At least when I was in Italy for 18 months and Germany for 3 years many moons ago you could pick up a 3 series BMW dirt cheap.
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Re: has this changed [joel0622] by robr2
Mar 17, 2007 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Mar 17, 2007 7:27 am)

Europe now has their own emissions standards that are not as strict as in North America. People who take vehicles over to Europe as part of their transfer don't have to deal with those issues any longer.
 
The reason you had to pull your converter was most likely because you couldn't get unleaded fuel there. Using it in a vehicle equipped with a converter would've damaged said converter.
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Test Drives on Ice Cover Lakes by rockfish1
Jun 14, 2007 (1:59 pm)
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Do any of you stories of buyers going to Europe to purchase their cars? From what I read in the WSJ nice discounts are available for European cars purchased over there. They also provide test drives on ice cover lakes. Over there you can get a test drive and enjoy a European vacation with the money you saved on the car purchase!
 
Do you think I could get a matching deal here with a little grinding?
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Re: Test Drives on Ice Cover Lakes [rockfish1] by snakeweasel
Jun 14, 2007 (4:21 pm)
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Replying to: rockfish1 (Jun 14, 2007 1:59 pm)

Hate to say this but taking test drives on ice covered lakes on my vacation will never happen. Ice covered lakes means winter (when its also winter here) if I am taking a winter vacation the only ice I want to see is in my drinks.
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Re: Test Drives on Ice Cover Lakes [snakeweasel] by rockfish1
Jun 14, 2007 (6:27 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jun 14, 2007 4:21 pm)

Thanks for a reply, I was trying to change the topic back to some interesting stories but the effort seems to be lost in the crowd of bickering.
 
The WSJ did show a picture of a car on a frozen lake. I'm not sure where they obtained the picture for the story was in this week's paper when it was 90 degrees here.
 
If I would put out the money for a high level car I would like to test out some of its limits.
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Re: Test Drives on Ice Cover Lakes [rockfish1] by cdnpinhead
Jun 14, 2007 (7:02 pm)
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Replying to: rockfish1 (Jun 14, 2007 1:59 pm)

Both BMW & Merc have European Delivery programs, and Volvo may as well, but I'm not sure (don't care, so haven't researched).
 
The BMW ED invoice price is significantly lower (I can't remember the percentage, but it's on the order of 6-8%) than the U.S. (with a corresponding sticker), for the car only. The options are the same price regardless of ED. Some dealers will negotiate the ED price, with $1000 over ED invoice considered a good deal. Some claim to have gotten $500 over ED invoice.
 
Either way, it's an attractive option to me. I've traveled in Germany on business a few times, so know my way around there (plus Austria & Switzerland), so that's my plan for my next car. Fly over on frequent flyer miles with my wife, don't have to rent a car (as we did on our last trip over there) & get a discount on a car optioned exactly as I want it. What's not to like?
 
However, dealing on ED prices isn't going to work very well if you bring the kind of attitude we've seen on this board lately.
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Re: Test Drives on Ice Cover Lakes [cdnpinhead] by rockfish1
Jun 15, 2007 (4:35 am)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Jun 14, 2007 7:02 pm)

Who is contacted for European pricing? Is it the car company directly or the local dealer.
 
Since the cars being shipped to North America are only the ones that were going to be shipped here anyway (no Europe only options) and with discounts up to 9% per the WSJ, I'm not sure how much is left for the dealer to make it worthwhile for him to be involved.
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Re: Test Drives on Ice Cover Lakes [rockfish1] by robr2
Jun 15, 2007 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: rockfish1 (Jun 15, 2007 4:35 am)

Who is contacted for European pricing? Is it the car company directly or the local dealer.
 
Go to the dealer. Typically they have certain people who deal with European Delivery.
 
Some brands (BMW/MB) allow dealers to negotiate the ED price. Others (Saab/Volvo) do not. The dealer gets paid a flat amount to process the order and they don't make a profit on selling the actual car.
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Re: Test Drives on Ice Cover Lakes [robr2] by british_rover
Jun 15, 2007 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: robr2 (Jun 15, 2007 7:08 am)

ED pricing is also available at the brands website. I looked up ED pricing on a Volvo V70R about a year ago thinking I wanted to do that for my next new car.
 
Now of course they discontinued the V70R so that won't happen.
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Re: Test Drives on Ice Cover Lakes [rockfish1] by mikefm58
Jun 15, 2007 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: rockfish1 (Jun 15, 2007 4:35 am)

Google BMW European Delivery and you'll find probably the best BMW website out there with fora for all the details on how to take delivery in Europe. Also, the last I knew, any vehicle purchased via ED did not come out of a particular dealers allotment and the invoice price was less, which is how they can be sold for such a discount as compared to one where delivery is taken over here.
 
You purchase it at your local dealer with all the usual negotiations. But you go to Europe and take delivery but they handle having it shipped back here to your local dealer. Just do your research and then find a local dealer that will do the ED option. With the savings, it's a nice way to get a free vacation in Europe.

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