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Re: REBATES: Dealers Choice? [oldfarmer50] by joel0622
Apr 10, 2007 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Apr 10, 2007 5:42 am)

On another board someone was complaining that the rebates listed on Edmunds were not available at his local dealers.
 
Rebates are what they are for your region. If it is an available rebate then the dealer is obligated to give it to you. Some times there is confusion on the consumers part when they take a special rate instead of the rebate, the majority of the times they are either or.
If it is a Ford dealership where the confusion lays just let me know your Zip Code and the vehichle type and I will tell you what the incentives are.
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Re: That depends... [dino001] by wlbrown9
Apr 10, 2007 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (Apr 06, 2007 1:04 pm)

I remember GM in particular cutting MSRP over the past several years to try and reduce rebates / incentives while keeping the average transaction about the same. Kind of an image thing.
 
We bought an Envoy XL SLT in May 2004...MSRP almost $40K. Rebate had just gone up another thousand to $5,000. (Interest rates at the time were running 3.99% through our Credit Union.) I looked at the same Envoy last year before the Xl was cut from the line up and the MSRP had gone down several thousand dollars. This would allow GM to get to the same competitive price needed to sell these vehicles with less incentive/rebate. About the same profit and transaction price without as much 'negative' publicity about them having to offer HUGE incentives to move their vehicles.
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Re: That depends... [wlbrown9] by steine13
Apr 10, 2007 (7:29 pm)
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Replying to: wlbrown9 (Apr 10, 2007 9:45 am)

... all true, except for the confusion trying to figure out what to pay for one of these cars.
 
I went through that looking for '06 Silverados... in the end, bought an '07 Classic without all the obfuscation.
 
GM is one messed-up company. Even when they do something reasonable, it somehow becomes complicated.
 
-Mathias
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Re: That depends... [steine13] by wlbrown9
Apr 13, 2007 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: steine13 (Apr 10, 2007 7:29 pm)

I think some of us get hung up on discount or amount under MSRP we can get instead of the real price of a vehicle. I'm thinking about replacing my '00 Trooper within a year or two. I was thinking that I might move up in size to a Yukon/Tahoe size vehicle since I don't want to move down in size. Now GM has the Outlook/Acadia/Envoy that looks really attractive and the gas mileage is a little better. They are still new and selling pretty good and no huge discounts. The Outlook/Acadia start at $29K-$30K while the Yukon/Tahoe start at roughly $35K (MSRP). But if I had to buy now, it looks as if discounts on Yukon/Tahoe are much better than the Outlook/Acadia...local ads in Memphis have Yukon/Tahoe discounted down to under $30K, so pricewise they are comparable to the current Outlook/Acadia. Which is the better deal? I'm thinking that maybe later the Outlook/Acadia/Envoy might have larger discounts or rebates, but I'll just have to wait and see what happens.
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Re: That depends... by gasman1
Apr 14, 2007 (4:09 am)
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Replying to: wlbrown9 (Apr 13, 2007 6:48 am)

You may want to wait until this summer when gas prices bust $3 to $3.50 in the mid-west and coadtal prices close on $4. The large SUV rebates will be HUGE.
 
But to answer your question of buying now... There's hardly ever a clear cut one way fits all answer. It depends on how you plan to use the vehicle. Towing and/or real off-road or gravel/secondary roads, then the Yukon/Tahoe. All primary roads with a lot of highway miles with passengers, the Acadia/Outlook/Envoy due to comfort and mileage.
 
Personally, I'm impressed with the new GM large SUVs more so than the GM CUVs to date. The Buick might change my mind, but the Acadia I checked out had a cheap unfinished look to the interior. I also hated the large blind spot in the A-pillars and the pricing is to high.
 
The January week that I had with a Suburban rental for businss was impressive. Not a perfect interior, but decent. Very impressed by V8 to V4 switch over as I found it extremely hard to ever notice the switch. Good job! Mileage wasn't that bad for the size of vehicle and weather conditions.
 
Back on topic - It does us no good to find the greatest deal if that great deal vehicle doesn't fit our requirements (use, budget, or garage).
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Re: That depends... [gasman1] by wlbrown9
Apr 16, 2007 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: gasman1 (Apr 14, 2007 4:09 am)

Might not have to wait until Summer...prices here in Memphis are running $2.70 - $2.80 per gallon already. Quite a run-up in the past month or so.
 
To me the largest difference would probably be the fuel mileage difference. My towing requirements so far have stayed under the 4500# limit of the lambadas. I was in the second row in a Yukon a couple of weeks ago. It had captain chairs in the second row and they were really roomy and comfortable. I'm thinking that seating comfort might be a little better in the Yukon vs. the lambadas...but I have yet to stop in and try them out. As far as exterior looks I like the lambadas better, in fact I don't like the looks of the current generation Yukon/Tahoe as well as the previous version.
 
I will wait and see what the GM CUVs do later in the year with gas prices up and more of the Acadia, Outlook and Enclave in the sales pipeline. Comparable discount would put the low end Outlooks and Acadias down to the $24K - $27K considering Yukons and Tahoes with $34-$36K MSRP being advertised at $30K or under.
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Re: That depends... [wlbrown9] by paisan
Apr 17, 2007 (4:05 am)
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Replying to: wlbrown9 (Apr 16, 2007 10:38 am)

I was in the second row in a Yukon a couple of weeks ago. It had captain chairs in the second row and they were really roomy and comfortable.
 
Take a look at the Nissan Armada, lots of room, 4-wheel Independent Suspension, decent milage for the size, low financing rates and 9100lb towing capacity... They are significantly more roomy than the Yukon/Tahoes especially the 2nd row buckets
 
-mike
Motorsports and Tuning Host
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Re: That depends... [paisan] by wlbrown9
Apr 23, 2007 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 17, 2007 4:05 am)

Mike,
 
Thanks for the info on the Armada. A quick looks seems to show that the bottom line might be in the same range as the Yukon...would have to do some comparison with certain options/features to see if there is any real difference. We has a first year Nissan Quest...good vehicle (for a mini-van ). Only thing I did not like was the orange brake dust...clean it up and there it was again in 2 days . How is that on the Armada? Also, how is the real life gas mileage? I know that was not your major reason for the Armada since you tow the race car.
 
Good day
 
bill
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Toyota memorial day APR by sdedmunds
May 23, 2007 (11:32 am)
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I wanted to know if toyota is having any specials for this memorial day? I looked online and it doesn't look like it, but I wanted to double check.
 
I'd like to get 1.9% on a new RAV4. I know mazda and subaru are giving out 1.9%, but I guess Toyota doesn't do that.
 
If Toyota will never have 1.9% on a RAV4 then does anyone know of a good AWD car with 1.9% or less APR this weekend. In the RAV4 or lower price range?
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Will Dodge extend its Rebates with the new lifetime powertrain warranty by mussc
Jul 31, 2007 (11:48 pm)
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Do you think Dodge/Chrysler will extend it's great rebates in the wake of it's lifetime powertrain warranty. I just looked on their website and they aren't offering ANY.
  
Do you think we missed the boat by not purchasing one by today? I could have gotten a new Dodge Crew Cab for less than $20,000 (over $10,000 off the MSRP)
  
As far as the resale price, why would anyone ever need to sell a Dodge if they have a lifetime warranty. They could always pass it on to their kids and keep it in their name. There won't be as many on the market, which will naturally raise the resale price eventhough the warranty is not transferable. Also if your engine and trans. blow, and you get them both replaced, that may also be a good time to sell.

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