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Re: 2001 LL Bean (H-6) Timing Chain Question [oclvframe] by ateixeira
Mar 03, 2006 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: oclvframe (Mar 03, 2006 9:13 am)

Who warned you? Perhaps a dealer that wants to make the profit from the service. What does the owner's manual say? I'd go according to that.
 
-juice
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WOW...Time flies by otis123
Mar 30, 2006 (3:04 pm)
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Hi Juice et al,
 
Last login was 3/14/05! Been a long time. Good to see the same support here! I always promised to report back, in turn for all the good info you guys supply.
 
My 2001 LLBean H6 is reaching 87,000 miles and still [knock on wood] continuing to provide flawless reliability. No problems...zip.
 
My front rotors/pads are ready to be replaced [the one design flaw this model run had - along with the stupid side window grommets]. Question.... do I shell out $450. for Subaru rotors/pads (they say there have been NO design changes from the original) OR do I go to Meineke brakes for $275. and maybe get a better designed rotor/pad combo?
 
Your expert advice??
 
Thanks,
 
Ralph
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Re: WOW...Time flies [otis123] by fibber2
Mar 30, 2006 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: otis123 (Mar 30, 2006 3:04 pm)

Hey Ralph,
 
Facing the same dilemma on my '02 OBW, the stock rotors and pads were exactly what I wanted to avoid. I still have problems with the pads sticking to the rotors after leaving the car parked outside for more than a few days (airports, etc.).
 
After some research, I settled on a set of PowerSlot Frozen Rotors (slotted disks, cryo treated), and Hawk HPS (Street Performance) pads. When I do the snows to all-seasons changeover in a few weeks, they go on. While you can get them cheaper, I went to TireRack (around $400) as I figured that they are more likely to help if I have any problems.
 
Steve
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Re: WOW...Time flies [otis123] by ateixeira
Mar 31, 2006 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: otis123 (Mar 30, 2006 3:04 pm)

Good to hear from you again.
 
I really have no idea about the quality of the Meineke rotors. What kind of warranty do they include?
 
I think I'd shop for those PowerSlots. Slotted rotors have gaps for the gasses to escape and increase the surface area for more efficient cooling, plus they don't crack in extreme circumstances like drilled rotors do.
 
Why not get an upgrade for just $125 more?
 
-juice
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Re: 2001 LL Bean (H-6) Timing Chain Question [oclvframe] by garandman
Apr 02, 2006 (5:53 am)
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Replying to: oclvframe (Mar 03, 2006 9:13 am)

I am staring at 116,700mi on my 01 LL Bean. I am curious if anyone with an H-6 has replaced their chain or had any problems related to the chain.
 
Short answer - no problems are being reported on dedicated Subaru websites that have 10-100x the messages here at Edmunds.
 
Email Subaru on the website and they'll snail mail you a response a couple weeks later. Chains can wear out but it's not typical.
 
What dealer told you this?
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Chain is lifetime? by otis123
Apr 26, 2006 (8:54 am)
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The chain doesn't need to be replaced. I don't plan on changing it unless I have to....
 
Ralph
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Rotors by otis123
Apr 26, 2006 (9:17 am)
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Steve,
 
Thanks. Sounds good. I think I'm going to get the Frozen Rotors cryo-treated rotors and bring them to a lifetime brake place near me - they use Wagner brake pads.
 
That way I should be covered for the life of the Beaner (at 88K now)...and avoid the warped rotor syndrome...
 
Thanks for the info!
 
Ralph
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Re: Rotors [otis123] by fibber2
Apr 26, 2006 (6:11 pm)
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Replying to: otis123 (Apr 26, 2006 9:17 am)

Hey Ralph,
 
If you didn't follow my brake story over in the Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions, I'll give you the Readers Digest Condensed version.
 
The week before I planned to do the work, I had the front right inside pad break apart. Friction material had glued itself to the rotor again, and when it snapped free, it was ejected right out of the caliper assembly!
 
I got everything apart, only to find that my '02 was not really an '02 in the brakes department, and had to go back to TireRack for '01 brake pads (old style). Gotta tell you, that really annoyed me big time! I feel a bit cheated, as the changes in design and effective sweep area were pretty substantial.
 
It is a little weak when cold, but grips very nicely when warmed up a bit. I am hoping it is not too slow to stabilize on a cold winter day. Overall, I think I am pretty happy with the setup. And those rotors sure are pretty! They say the plating will keep most of the surfaces from ever rusting.
 
Steve
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AC question for 03LL-Bean 35K by firstov
Apr 27, 2006 (9:20 am)
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Hello,
It's getting hotter now and when I turn on the AC it only blows not very cool air. In addition when I press AC button I can hear it kick in, but for the first 30 seconds it makes strange kind of ticking sound that disappears later.
This sounds like a leaf in the vent.
Is this some easy fix like adding $20 AC refrigerant from Walmart or something more serious?
The car is out of warranty.
Thanks!
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Re: Rotors [fibber2] by otis123
May 04, 2006 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: fibber2 (Apr 26, 2006 6:11 pm)

Hi Steve,
 
Yikes! Sounds like you weren't in harm's way. Good thing!
 
Did more research, too. I've decided to get the Frozen Rotors ($230.) from TR and have a local shop put ceramic pads ($89.) on w/ a lifetime guarantee - only $45. labor to replace. That way I'm pretty well covered.
 
Local shop said the Frozen Rotor option is becoming popular with in-the-know Outback owners trying to avoid the warped rotor syndrome. And they mentioned I should go with the ceramic pads with those rotors. Hope it works...
 
Thanks again for steering me toward them!
 
Ralph

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