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Re: Electrical problems Outback 2001 [catcardc] by smokeybaer
Nov 28, 2005 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: catcardc (Nov 26, 2005 11:21 am)

Sounds familiar. First my starter went at about 90,000 mi. (gear didn't engage but it spun like mad). Then the lights flashing bit happened a couple times. Dealer tested and the alternator was only putting out about 1/2 of normal. They said battery was OK but a couple thousand miles later it was found to have a bad cell and was replaced as well. By then I had around 98,000 and my warrenty expired at 100,000 so traded it on an 05 legacy GT, Since totaled. Wife thought I should have kept the 01 since nearly everything had been replaced. Other items were Radiator, Both front wheel bearings, Front rotors, & Transmission. I was just afraid to trust it anymore. Motor was perfect however with no troubles at all.
Warren
 
Warren
#2015 of 2084
Re: Premium [ateixeira] by dentana
Dec 18, 2005 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 01, 2005 12:38 pm)

Just bought the 2006 Outback 2.5XT turbo. Fleet salesperson we purchased auto from at Shortline Subaru in Denver swears that "because of the altitude" there is no reason to use premium. He drives same make/model and uses 85 octane. Subaru owners manual says Premium only for turbo; use of octane less than 91 can void warranty (not sure how they'd prove that).
 
Just find it odd that fleet salesperson would advise customers to take action that Subaru specifically warns against. For the time being, until I hear differently, I will start using premium. Have gone about 1,000 miles so far on mid-grade (87 octane) and don't notice any performance or pinging issues, but don't want to take any chances. Besides, it's usually only an extra 2 - 3 bucks per fill up. Any other insight on this would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Premium [dentana] by kens
Dec 18, 2005 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: dentana (Dec 18, 2005 1:17 pm)

Congrats on your purchase!
 
It is true that one can run lower octane at higher altitudes since the thinner air does resist detonantion.
 
However, I'm not sure about a turbo engine. Since a turbo can maintain mainfold pressure, it will compensate for the lower ambient pressure by increasing boost. I'd ask Subaru about that one and be careful before using a lower grade.
 
Ken
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Re: Premium [kens] by ateixeira
Dec 19, 2005 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: kens (Dec 18, 2005 4:05 pm)

Exactly, with excess efficiency, a turbo will just use its bleed off valve a bit less at altitude. That's why turbos hardly lose any power, while N/A engines are wheezing.
 
You can probably get away with mid-grade, but I'd still opt for the highest octane I could get.
 
-juice
#2018 of 2084
Re: HELP: VDC OR LL BEAN? [wmquan] by theooutback
Dec 19, 2005 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: wmquan (Nov 18, 2005 10:03 am)

I agree that VDC should be cheaper - the Electronic Stability Control Coalition notes that stability control can be priced as low as $500. An interesting site for tzarina to look at perhaps: http://www.esceducation.org/
 
I note that VDC is intended to prevent a skid, which is more critical the higher the car is. Thus it seems to be standard on more and more SUVs since a skid often results in roll-overs for those cars. We have it in our Toyota mini-van and I'm glad to have it there for the extra help.
 
Also, I note that VDC is an option on 2.5i models on the models listed on the Subaru Global website http://www.subaru-global.com/lineup/outback/safety/ac_control.html and is standard on all 3.0s on the global site. http://www.subaru-global.com/ It's too bad that it's an upscale option on the US Outback still.
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Re: HELP: VDC OR LL BEAN? [theooutback] by ateixeira
Dec 20, 2005 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: theooutback (Dec 19, 2005 6:49 pm)

Very interesting...so they have got it to work with other powertrains.
 
-juice
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weird electrical subaru outback by kwolff
Jan 17, 2006 (5:22 am)
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I have a brand new (600) miles outback, from day one had an electrical circuit that went in and out. It affected the remote starter, remote door lock, radio and interior lights and clock display. first they thought it was a fuse, then the remote starter instalation, then a loose wire coming out of the under hood fuse box. fixed three times, each time sure they had found the problem, the third time I drove home and the next morning it was dead had to be towed. Ever hear of this. They (Subaru America)have the option now of replacing it or sending a factory rep to diagnose and fix.
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Re: weird electrical subaru outback [kwolff] by ateixeira
Jan 17, 2006 (12:48 pm)
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Replying to: kwolff (Jan 17, 2006 5:22 am)

No, but at least they're sending the right person. Must be some sort of electrical short or something.
 
-juice
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Re: Electrical problems Outback 2001 [ssloaner] by denniskey04
Jan 18, 2006 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: ssloaner (Aug 23, 2005 9:19 am)

I have the same outback and had the similar problem, replaced the alternator and battery around 60,000, 07-04-05. Now, at 85,000 another alternator. Upon first startup ran low idle (30 degrees out), hestitision, and stalled, but no trouble light. Ran well after warmed up. I don't know what tomorrow will bring...most likely the dealer...
I will post results!
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Re: Electrical problems Outback 2001 [farbs] by farbs
Jan 20, 2006 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: farbs (Nov 26, 2005 7:59 am)

An update. Dealer said bad alternator and put in a new one. Went back to garage that put in first alternator and they tested it. Yep, it's bad. So far no new problem with new alternator. Fingers crossed.

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