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#2002 of 2084
Re: HELP: VDC OR LL BEAN? [tzarina] by garandman
Nov 19, 2005 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: tzarina (Nov 18, 2005 8:11 am)

I am planning to buy a Subaru wagon in the near future. Am confused about whetehr it's worth the extra money to get the VDC with traction control (and navigation, which I don't really need) or go with the LL Bean, which has the same AWD system but no traction control
 
I just sold my second OBW - ('97 - 164,000 miles) - and will be ordering the third - a 3.0R wagon - next week. The 3.0R is like the basic 2.5i but with the 3.0 6 and 5 speed auto. No leather, sunroof, nav etc.
 
The older OBW's I had didn't even have a limited slip differential on the rear drive. I used M&S all season radials on both previous OBW's and honestly I can count the number of times I even spun a wheel. This includes a lot of driving throughout Northern New England and including lots of dirt roads in VT.
 
VDC is neat, but not essential. If you are really concerned about Winter driving, buying a set of dedicated snows (ones with the snowflake designation) will be the best investment you can make.
 
We conducted a test last Winter in a snowstorm with a Honda Accord equipped with Nokian RSI snows; an Accord with all season tires, and my Subaru with Michelin HydroEdge M&S-rated all season radials. Three drivers drove them back-to-back on an unplowed road and then made notes before speaking to the other drivers.
 
Conclusions were the same for all three of us. The Nokian equipped Honda didn't accelerate as well as the Subaru, but stopped and turned better. We wound up shutting off the traction control, though, as more wheelspin than it allowed worked better accelerating up hills. I was so impressed I'm getting snows for the new Subaru.
 
VDC and other stability control systems are neat. But in terms of actual winter safety, the #1 heart-stopping scenario seems to be the requirement to stop short on ice. The ABS system standard on all these vehicles handles that situation very well.
#2003 of 2084
Alloy wheels for 06 OBW by garandman
Nov 19, 2005 (11:44 am)
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I want to buy a set of alloys to mount dedicated snows on for an 06 OBW. It seems like going to a -1 16" wheel for snows would be the best choice. Anyone bought any aftermarket wheels for this application?
 
Do the 16" from previous years fit the 06's? I can probably get some OEM 16" rims on eBay.
#2004 of 2084
Re: HELP: VDC OR LL BEAN? [tzarina] by tkanic
Nov 19, 2005 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: tzarina (Nov 18, 2005 8:11 am)

I don't think it is worth the extra bucks. I went from a FWD (w/ snows) to a AWD (05 OB) and there is a world of difference. Going up my snowy steep driveway was an effort w/ the old car w/ the snow tires, sometimes not possiable before I got them. W/ the AWD and the standard tires I have had no problems, I even tested it by stopping on the steep part, then continued up, barely a wheel spin.
 
If you do get it it will most likely be something that you will be happy with everytime you are in a slippery situation justifying to yourself if it wasn't for the VDC you would have had problems.
 
If you don't get it, I really don't see a time while driving that you wished you had it RIGHT NOW.
#2005 of 2084
Re: Alloy wheels for 06 OBW [garandman] by ateixeira
Nov 20, 2005 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: garandman (Nov 19, 2005 11:44 am)

Make sure the brakes clear. I don't think they grew for 06 so they probably do.
 
-juice
#2006 of 2084
Re: Alloy wheels for 06 OBW [garandman] by garandman
Nov 21, 2005 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: garandman (Nov 19, 2005 11:44 am)

Do the 16" from previous years fit the 06's? I can probably get some OEM 16" rims on eBay.
 
Found the answer courtesy Joe Spitz. Both 17x7jj offset 48 (1.89) and 16x6" offset 48 (1.89)fit both 2005 and 2006.
 
Still don't know about the 16" on the 2000-2004.
#2007 of 2084
Re: Alloy wheels for 06 OBW [garandman] by leo2633
Nov 21, 2005 (2:25 pm)
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Replying to: garandman (Nov 21, 2005 11:49 am)

My wife's 2003 Outback 16" alloy rims have a 48mm offset, same as the ones on my 2001 Forester S.
 
Len
#2008 of 2084
Re: Alloy wheels for 06 OBW [leo2633] by garandman
Nov 21, 2005 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: leo2633 (Nov 21, 2005 2:25 pm)

Kewl - thanks!
#2010 of 2084
Re: Electrical problems Outback 2001 [bicalino] by farbs
Nov 26, 2005 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: bicalino (Sep 20, 2005 6:03 pm)

Did ya hear anything? This is a mystery that needs solving.
 
Just had the same problem. 2001, just short of 60k. Burned through new battery and alternator (both requiring out of state tows w/ the family on board). Now the brake/battery light are on.
 
Who'd have thunk that our VW Jetta is more relable than our Subaru?!
#2011 of 2084
Re: Electrical problems Outback 2001 [ssloaner] by catcardc
Nov 26, 2005 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: ssloaner (Aug 23, 2005 9:19 am)

What a coincidence - I have 2001 Outback Limted - 47,000 mi. The other night, after not having driven it for about a month, I started it and the brake light wouldn't go off, then ABS light, oil light, battery light came on, the wipers were moving very slow and lights were dimming. Engine died after driving a few blocks. Then after a few minutes it started again and drove it a few blocks - until it died. Then I waited, started it and let it idle for 10 minutes and managed to get it home. Next day it started like normal - no funny indicator light behavior. Drove it to Sears and bought new battery. Things were fine for about a week - including 90 mile drive out of town. Then today, it made a loud noise, and power died again - this time Check Engine light comes on. Towed to Subaru Dealer - Tow truck driver thinks it is alternator (which was a previous theory prior to battery replacement). I will post again when we get results - but from reading this blog it sounds like a pattern is forming on this make/model. Never thought I would have trouble like this at 47 K miles with a Subaru.

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