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Rob, Was that Faulkner Subaru you were thinking of? I think they will be my next choice if I decide to go that way. Thanks for the tip. Tom |
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Tom: the USA Today gave the Highlander a scathing review, which surprised me a lot. It was slipping a lot up an icy incline, despite AWD and traction control. They also complained about a jiggly ride and brakes that required lots of pressure (even though it had brake assist). Drive one, certainly, but I'd look out for those flaws. The power and price sound good, though. Serge: the Tribute isn't a true Mazda. The engine comes from the Taurus (Duratec V6) and the tranny comes from the 4 cylinder Contour. That tranny (CD4E) has been extremely problematic in other applications, and I can't imagine it would do any better in a heavier vehicle with more torque. That plus 6 recalls already! On paper, the Tribute is a bargain, though. Roomy, powerful. It's not nearly as upscale as the Outback, though. I've seen LL Beans selling for $28k, while similarly equipped Tribute fetch $25k, so the price difference isn't as big as you'd think. Plus, that $3k buys you a quality product with a longer warranty and much better reliability. -juice |
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I wouldn't call it a scathing review. Yes they found some faults, but it wasn't all bad. To me, "scathing" means they virtually hated the vehicle. That's clearly not the case. They found fault with the AWD, and called it as boring as a Camry. I agree with both those comments. Some of the other stuff, like the shift lever, are really just a matter of personal preferences—and nothing really major. Bob |
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Actually, I read it that way. He also called it boring and kept comparing it to a Camry in a derogatory manner. It almost sounds like we read different reviews! Heck, I like the Camry and haven't tried the Highlander yet. I'll check one out on Saturday at the car show. -juice |
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| It was the Subaru dealership on Paxton St, just next to their other Toyota and Mazda shop. Ask for the Internet sales person to get the $300 over invoice deal on the VDC. | |
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In Post #454 of the Highlander SUV Forum a test driver already ran into the situation I'm worried about on the VDC: "the traction-control system (which limits wheel spin by braking wheels individually or adjusting braking pressure - can't be turned off) didn't allow us to move forward because one of the front wheels kept spinning. The poor salesman didn't even mind helping to push the vehicle out!" This was in deep snow. Have any of you new VDC owners experienced a similar situation in snow or sand? Tom |
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Tom, In the H6-3.0 brochure, Subaru describes the VTD (which is on the VDC) as allowing for not only one spinning wheel, but 3 spinning wheels and the VTD shifts the torque to the wheel with traction. Thus, you should be able to move forward with 3 wheels on ice and one on dry pavement. Haven't tried it yet, but the car's coming in sometime in the next week. I might have to ice down my driveway just to try it out Hey! a new way to keep people off my driveway! HTH, Theo |
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| Or just recommended? If just recommended, any bad experiences using less than premium? | |
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According to Subaru, it's recommended. You can use regular 87 octane, but you'll be giving up about 5 horsepower. The engine will retard the timing slightly to avoid pinging. FWIW, most people cannot "feel" 5 hp. Premium is recommended on our 626 and we've used regular without noticing any difference whatsoever. -juice |
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| Purchased car in N. Virginia last month- no problems- everything has been great! Will have 3000 miles soon and will take it back to dealer for service. I also got the fancy "no wax" finish- It looks good- so far. | |
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