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#2072 of 2081
Smaller Brakes on 01? Re: H6 passes 100,000 miles [otis123] by mountainwalker
May 14, 2008 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: otis123 (Feb 28, 2007 12:03 pm)

So are brakes on 01 VDC Outbacks not as good as the brakes on 02-on? Can the 01 brakes be replaced with the larger better brakes and at what cost in parts and labor?
 
I'm in the market for an 01-04 VDC edition Subaru Outback, so the question is very timely for me. Mostly looking at 01-03 years.
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Things to look for/avoid in buying 01-04 VDC Outback? by mountainwalker
May 14, 2008 (10:02 am)
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I'm in the market right now for an 01-04 VDC Outback - will post some of the vehicles I found with brief notes and really looking forward to your feedback - in the meantime, wanted to ask in general, would you stay away from 01, 02, 03 or 04 model years for any reason?
 
I read above the 01 had smaller brakes and wondering how much this affects safety performance, and whether these can be replaced with later larger brakes and at what cost in parts and labor.
 
I prefer the 6 cylinder Outback and prefer the VDC edition. Second preference would be the LL Bean H6.
#2074 of 2081
Re: Smaller Brakes on 01? Re: H6 passes 100,000 miles [mountainwalker] by otis123
May 14, 2008 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: mountainwalker (May 14, 2008 9:57 am)

01 are smaller diameter discs than 02. Not sure if it made a real-life difference. Don't know if you can upgrade - probably not - you'd have to upgrade all the brake components?
 
All I do know is I went to Power Slot Frozen [Cryo] Rotors and ceramic pads and never looked back. It solved my problem of warped rotors - a common problem on many heavy cars...
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LLBean by otis123
May 14, 2008 (10:16 am)
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My Black LLBean has 118K - born Jan. 01, delivered Feb. 01. It has been a very reliable car and is still as tight as the day I bought it... Will probably keep it a few more years...
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Re: Things to look for/avoid in buying 01-04 VDC Outback? [mountainwalker] by snowbelter
May 14, 2008 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: mountainwalker (May 14, 2008 10:02 am)

Warped rotors were an annoyance and an expense on my wife's 00 and my 02, but the brakes on both cars worked fine. My wife's 00 had a problem with "frozen" sliders, and I recall there was a design change to deal with that the following year. That problem could be avoided with remembering to have the sliders lubricated a couple of times a year. The brakes on my wife's 04 have caused fewer problems.
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Re: Smaller Brakes on 01? Re: H6 passes 100,000 miles [otis123] by mountainwalker
May 14, 2008 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: otis123 (May 14, 2008 10:13 am)

Power Slot Frozen [Cryo] Rotors and ceramic pads - what do they do? How much are these to add in parts and labor?
#2078 of 2081
Please help us pick the best 01-03 Outback VDC vehicle below by mountainwalker
May 14, 2008 (12:24 pm)
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Hi All,
 
Thanks to this forum’s help, I’ve narrowed our Outback search to an H6 VDC edition, roughly 01-05 model years, and would appreciate your feedback on the following VDC vehicles we’re evaluating. I’d like to send the best 1-2 options for a thorough garage inspection right away. Which are the best 1-2 values to send for inspection? Which would you be cautious about/stay away from?
 
All are supposed to be in good cosmetic condition, but can’t be sure about the mechanics until an inspection, and the cost of inspections can start to add up.
 
Arranged in order of year and asking price, includes mileage and KBB and Edmunds estimates based on temporary assumption of car’s condition based on seller description (before I have inspected).
 
A) 2001, Miles 130,000, Asking $8,000, Dealer seller. KBB $10,875, Edmunds $10,528, assuming good condition. Cosmetic condition looks good. Concerned the big delta between the asking price and KBB and Edmunds could mean something is seriously wrong.
 
B) 2001, Miles 82,740, Asking $12,000, Individual seller. KBB $12,755, Edmunds $13,168, assuming excellent condition. Cosmetic condition looks good. Seller claims that car was always dealer serviced.
 
C) 2001, Miles 60,680, Asking $12,400, Individual seller. KBB is $14,170 Edmunds $13,958 assuming excellent condition. Cosmetic condition looks good. Seller says he bought from previous owner (a son who inherited from father and didn’t need the car). Seller says he buys a few cars/year, cleans them up for resale to make a few bucks. Condition notes - small ding on driver’s side door, tiny paint scratch over rear bumper that was painted over, a little scuffing on outside of driver’s seat.
 
D) 2003, Miles 74,800, Asking $14,000, Dealer seller. KBB $14,505, Edmunds $16,176, assuming good condition. Cosmetic condition looks good.
 
E) 2003, Miles 65,000, Asking $15,000, Dealer seller. KBB $15,730, Edmunds $16,188, assuming good condition. Cosmetic condition looks good.
 
F) 2001, Miles 61,500, Asking $16,000. Dealer Seller. KBB $14,110 and Edmunds $13,849, assuming excellent condition. Cosmetic condition looks good. Looks WAY overpriced.
 
G) 2003, 46,000 miles, $17,000, Dealer seller. KBB $19,315 and Edmunds $18,186, assuming excellent condition. Cosmetic condition looks good. Has OnStar system (though could care less about OnStar).
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Re: Please help us pick the best 01-03 Outback VDC vehicle below [mountainwalker] by ateixeira
May 14, 2008 (1:59 pm)
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Replying to: mountainwalker (May 14, 2008 12:24 pm)

Get the 03+ because they're beyond the head gasket issues.
 
To be honest those prices seem high to me, though.
 
Only the 2003 with 46k miles would have a warranty remaining.
#2080 of 2081
Re: Please help us pick the best 01-03 Outback VDC vehicle below [ateixeira by mountainwalker
May 14, 2008 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 14, 2008 1:59 pm)

Thanks. I thought there was only a head gasket issue with the 4 cylinder - the VDC in those years was only available with 6 cylinder.
 
You think ALL those prices are high? The 46,000 mi 2003 is $2000 below KBB, and there are several others below KBB, though I'd agree the asking prices should be lower.
#2081 of 2081
Re: Please help us pick the best 01-03 Outback VDC vehicle below [ateixeira [mountainwalker] by ateixeira
May 15, 2008 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: mountainwalker (May 14, 2008 2:36 pm)

Of course, I stand corrected.
 
Sorry, I skipped the first part and missed that.
 
No wonder the prices are higher. The VDC model was way upscale, with the fancy stereo, the H6, stability and traction control, etc.

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