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#7867 of 11746 Edmunds pricing for used Legacy/Outbacks
Mar 15, 2003 (7:39 am)
I've been looking at getting a wagon. The Legacy/Outback are near the top of my list. What I don't get is the pricing around here (Seattle). A dealer wants 19k for a 2001 Outback with 41k miles on it. Edmunds says 14k is a fair *retail* price. I offered 14.5 and he almost laughed. A private seller wants 13.5 for a 1999 Legacy Outback with 63k miles. Edmunds says 10.5 is a fair private sale price.
Is Edmunds pricing Subarus too low, or are these people delusional and I need to hunt harder for a deal?
In another discussion on these boards, a poster said Edmunds prices are "opinion". I thought they were compiled from actual sales statistics. Am I wrong?
Mar 15, 2003 (8:27 am)
The Edmunds.com True Market Value® (TMV®) prices are our estimates of the current average selling prices for this vehicle. These prices are for your region of the country if you provided us with a Zip Code; otherwise they are the national averages. These are base prices and do not include the cost of optional equipment or taxes and other fees.
Mar 15, 2003 (8:35 am)
A dealer in Marysville WA. is advertising new 2003 Outbacks for under $20,000. I think Edmunds is closer to reality than your Seattle dealers for a used Outback.
I bought a new Outback from this dealer in 2001. Invoice or less pricing and they seem to be straight shooters, no additional fees etc. I didn't have a trade in, so maybe they get you there.
Good luck, Eric
Mar 15, 2003 (8:43 am)
I'm buying a used '97 OB Ltd. for $12,600 ("retail pricing"). That's the price I got from the Real-World Trade-In Values discussion.
Edmunds Customized Appraisal gave me $12,700 for my zip (the seller's zip prolly would have been a bit higher).
Both prices were too high, but I know the car and was willing to pay retail for a private party sale.
There's just something about buying a AWD Subaru in the winter in some parts of the country. If you want a bargain, try Chattanooga... I almost got one there.
#7871 of 11746 Turn signal flasher location
Mar 15, 2003 (10:32 am)
Does anyone know where the turn signal flasher is located on a '97 Legacy wagon? Thanks, Jim
#7872 of 11746 Greg - Seattle OBs
Mar 15, 2003 (11:55 am)
Geez - no wonder you're being quoted high prices - you're over on the east side!
Seriously - I bought my 2K OB (new) from Carter Subaru (at NE175th and Aurora) and received an excellent price, no BS, and a hassle-free experience. They had even given me a new OB to "test drive" for a weekend - over 200 miles - to help me convince the boss it could replace our old Caravan.
They have free loaner cars, and 7-day-a-week service, which you'll probably never use.
The salesman was Victor Fleming, who was still there last fall when we took a new Forester out for a joy ride. They usually have lots of used, late-model OBs.
Ken in (momentarily sunny) Seattle
#7873 of 11746 Thanks everyone, keep it coming!
Mar 15, 2003 (12:56 pm)
Ok, I'm happy to hear the comments. My responses so far:
Tidester: yup, I gave zip and priced with options accurately.
Eric: Thanks, I will look up Marysville and drive there if it'll save me $thousands. (Cool, just north of Everett - is that Roy Robinson Chevy-Subaru?)
Steve: Thanks. (but otoh, it's no longer winter here )
kmclean: Are you joking, or are you serious? I'm new to the area and if Kirkland is overpriced, I can drive 10 miles and be in Seattle or Lynnwood, 20 and be in Renton, etc. I just woulda thought that competition would even out prices over such short distances (a "mean field theory" of car pricing )
Mar 15, 2003 (1:49 pm)
3.5k rpm 75 here too... 97 OB 5spd
"thirty five at seventy five"
Ken: thanks for sharing all the rain, bud
Cheers! (and wipe your feet!)
Paul in (it only looks like Seattle) Spokane
Mar 15, 2003 (6:10 pm)
Yes, Roy Robinson. You'll save about 1/2% on sales tax if you buy outside of the Seattle area. They gave me a free loaner the one time I took the Outback in for a minor warranty item and a discount on some accessories that I bought at a later date.
Kind of weird on used Outbacks, I see what seems like millions of them on the road around here, but hardly ever see one advertised for sale in our (Everett) paper.
#7876 of 11746 Used Outbacks
Mar 15, 2003 (7:15 pm)
You don't see them because people hardly ever give them up.
We took one in on trade today and it was sold within two hours.