Subaru Legacy/Outback

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#6766 of 11746 Finally a New Legacy by rk_goa

Nov 07, 2002 (12:34 pm)

Finally we bought a 2003 Legacy L Special Edition sedan in Silverstone Metallic. Drives and handles great. Power is adequate (10% more would be perfect) and the 4EAT shifts smoothly. Handling is great, specially with the 16" wheels. But the ride is a little taut for my taste and unless I get used to it, I might get 15" wheels when the stock RE92s wear out. The ceiling feels a low with the moonroof. Is this typical in cars with moonroofs?
 
While Subarus have good reliability reviews, this is our first Subaru and we will see how it performs over time. We had luck with 3 Toyotas before. Just retired a 1990 Camry after 156,000 miles. Except for the usual wear and tear(tires, brakes, batteries, belts etc.) the only other things needed for it were a thermostat and a valve cover gasket after 10 years of use ($210).
 
Thanks to all of you for the information I found here.
 
Roger

#6767 of 11746 Roger, by fibber2

Nov 07, 2002 (3:53 pm)

Congrats on the new car. Doing a "one-minus" tire/wheel swap (from xxx/60-16 to xxx/70-15) will potentially soften the ride, but at the expense of handling. The stock tires are also probably "H" speed rated. Consider a "T" or "S" to soften the ride. Just be careful about monitoring tire pressure as the lower speed rated tires may also have lower reserve capacity when underinflated.
 
You mentioned the '90 Camry. I had a '90 LE-V6 wagon, which came with the one-plus upgrade over the 4 cyl models: 195/60-15 vs. 185/70-14. My wagon rode harder than a friends, but the handling was incredible by comparison. BTW, I sold it in '97 with 115k miles, and still see it occasionally around town.
 
Steve

#6768 of 11746 tire size by cptplt

Nov 07, 2002 (6:13 pm)

the difference in diameter of the 205/70-15 vs 215/65-15 is minimal, 215 actually a 1/3in smaller. 00 OBs (225/60-16) have tires 1/3in larger than your stock and I don't think their fenders or suspensions are any bigger.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

#6769 of 11746 Recalls by nextmoon

Nov 08, 2002 (7:24 am)

FYI from thecarconnection.com :
 
"SUBARU RECALLS A LITTLE OF EVERYTHING
Subaru says it will recall 163,243 vehicles from its U.S. lineup for a problem with the automatic transmissions offered in the cars. The company says some 2001 Legacys, all of its 2002 Legacy, Outback, Impreza and Forester crossovers, and some 2003 Legacys, Outbacks, Foresters, Imprezas and Bajas will be brought back because an automatic-transmission park rod could be defective, which could allow the vehicles to slip out of park and roll. The company will begin notifying owners and will start repairing vehicles after the first of the year."

#6770 of 11746 by ateixeira

Nov 08, 2002 (11:34 am)

Congrats Roger, those are really nice.
 
Yes, generally moonroofs do eat into head room. At least the Legacy had more than usual to begin with, given the raised roof design.
 
I would not go to a 15" wheel because there might be issues with brake clearance. I think the rotors got a bit bigger when they upgraded the wheels, though I could be wrong.
 
What I would do instead is just lower the tire pressure. Dealers usually have them at 32psi or so, try 29psi and see if that rides better for your tastes. Don't go too low, of course.
 
-juice

#6771 of 11746 Recalls by xccoachlou

Nov 08, 2002 (6:06 pm)

Stick Shifts are looking better every day...

#6772 of 11746 on the contrary by subearu

Nov 08, 2002 (7:38 pm)

I don't like to crosspost, but I just posted this regarding the recall:
subearu "Subaru Baja" Nov 8, 2002 9:33pm
 
The transmission (4EAT) has been very reliable for Subaru and used for several years. This recall shouldn't be a big deal.
 
-Brian

#6773 of 11746 Recalls... by xccoachlou

Nov 08, 2002 (8:28 pm)

BTW, all I meant was that sticks are more fun, and there is no recall on them yet. This recall sounds like it really is nothing major, and my personal opinion is, "what are parking brakes for?"
 
You have to love the wording too, "an automatic-transmission park rod could be defective, which could allow the vehicles to slip out of park and roll."
 
It COULD be defective, and it COULD allow the vehicles to slip out of park and roll...
 
That's a lot of coulds... but what if you just use the parking brakes, and turn the wheels like you're supposed to?

#6774 of 11746 by jfl

Nov 08, 2002 (8:41 pm)

It's also only a "risk" when the engine is running. (A la Audi 100?) It mentioned somewhere that less than 900 were actually defective.
 
Jim

#6775 of 11746 tire psi by bravadajon

Nov 08, 2002 (9:09 pm)

Pressure in the tires on my new Outback was about 36psi....supposed to be 30 front and 29 rear. The Subaru rides much better now with the proper tire pressure.
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