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#2531 of 11746 Finally - LL Bean owner.
Aug 28, 2001 (8:55 am)
Add me to the list of new Subie owners (we've had Subies before but not since the 1992 Legacy we sold in 1996). We picked up our Wintergreen LL Bean wagon last night. We had an excellent buying/delivery experience at White Bear Subaru (Twin Cities, MN) with Eric Peterson. I highly reccomend Eric and his crew. The deal was $500 over invoice with Subaru financing (rebate to dealer). He will go $100 over invoice with other financing. The Bean will take some getting used-to after putting over 100,000 miles total on 2-1999 Hondas (V-6 Accord and Odyssey) The Hondas were/are great cars. Too bad Honda doesn't make something like the Outback. We are planning to drive it a lot this weekend to get the feel for it. My wife drove it home last night and says it's not nearly as fast as her V6 Accord was. I told her it needs to get 'broken in'. I hope it grows on her. This arrangement (wife driving the Bean) is only temporary as sometime later next year, she will wants to get herself an Acura RSX Type-S and I'll get my Bean.
I will keep you posted as we get more familiar with the Bean.
Paul in MN.
Aug 28, 2001 (9:09 am)
Tell your wife the Accord is FWD with an open front differential. One tire on ice and it's like ice skating. Wanna bet which one is faster on snow/slush/ice/rain?
It also can't carry as much cargo as your wagon, not even close. It's too bad Honda doesn't offer the euro Accord wagon here.
Do yourself a favor and test drive a WRX. You may change your mind about that RSX. If she likes straight line acceleration, the WRX is quicker under any circumstances.
#2533 of 11746 Congratulations Paul
Aug 28, 2001 (10:48 am)
Wintergreen is a great color. My daughter was trying to get us to buy that color, but, in the end it was Winestone (wife wins again!).
#2534 of 11746 Congrats Paul!!!
Aug 28, 2001 (12:24 pm)
there's many 'drive-smiles' to come.
Give the Bean a chance to settle in.
Hey it may not be that quick off the line, but think of all the advantageous Juice mentioned it has over the Accord and somemore. Wanna bet which could take a corner more aggressively and still be in confident control?
Aug 28, 2001 (12:43 pm)
We bought an OB last Aug (2000) with a lot of enthusiasm. Since purchasing it, we have had several problems and I am at a point of getting rid of the car. Has anybody else had similar problems? Who do I contact at Subaru to address these problems?
The inside roof (headliner) is spotted with hundreds of rust marks. Over the last couple of months the dots have increased steadily. The dealer says he has never seen anything like that before and recommended changing the headliner. It is a three day in-shop job.
1. At 500 miles the steering column started wobbling while braking over 50mph. The dealer resurfaced the rotors.
2. Same problem at 3000 miles - rotors, front and back, pads, replaced. Was at the shop for 5 days due to lack of spare parts availability.
3. 7000 miles - security system stopped functioning. Dealer said he "reset" the sec. system.
4. 15K miles, problem resurfaced. Have made an appointment with the dealer to have it checked.
Aug 28, 2001 (1:43 pm)
It sucks to have to keep going back, but it sounds like the dealer is trying. Call the 800# to get SoA to pitch in some effort.
#2537 of 11746 hood deflector, new Bean, and CD players
Aug 28, 2001 (2:03 pm)
sorry I didn't reply quicker, but I leave the hood deflector on and wash best I can behind it. I might take it off for the next waxing...
Congrats on the new bean. Glad you had a good experience with Eric. I thought he was better than most.
On the CD front, I haven't noticed any repeats. I have noticed that disk #3 in the 6 disk changer skips the most. Home burned CDs are the worst, but they play well in all the other spots.
#2538 of 11746 Reply to Extensive problems
Aug 28, 2001 (2:26 pm)
At the 3K maintenance check, I had the service department address a 'shimmy' in the steering wheel at constant highway speeds. Essentially, the steering wheel was shaking back and forth (subtle but still shaking) when the Bean was at a constant highway and less noticeable at highway acceleration speeds. I never experienced it in street type driving or during braking though. They balanced the wheels and after 800 miles since the balance, problem has not occurred.
Since your's keeps reoccurring and happens when you brake have them check the wheels, tires and the alignment also. There have been several postings on the wheels in which the owner described and even gave photos of what a bad wheel looks like (check some past postings). This owner had a steering shake problem that was correct by warranty replacement of the wheels. The tires could also be the problem.
As for the spots, do you see any leaks? I wondering if it is mildew or mold that is forming. Best thing and probably the other thing is to replace the material.
#2539 of 11746 Problem summary
Aug 28, 2001 (2:42 pm)
I have been on this town hall since I purchased my Outback Bean in June. What I have gathered from the various postings since June is a summary of problems that Outback owners have experienced. They are:
1. Some Outbacks ping, mostly the H4 engines, don't recall any pinging with the H6's
2. Some Outbacks have paint issues, mostly winestone color
3. Some Outbacks have chipping (paint) issues, many
4. Some Outbacks have shaking wheels problems with different fix solutions
5. Some Outbacks have squealing brakes when the car is first driven after a rest period
Any thing else?
#2540 of 11746 Go for the WRX
Aug 28, 2001 (4:46 pm)
dill 6--i have a 2002 WRX. I traded a Forester in on it. The length of the cargo bed in each is about the same. I took 3 two week vacations in the Forester. My wife seriously overpacks and so do I. In 1999 we were planning a two week trip to South Dakota. All of our luggage was pack and I was planning to pick up my wife at the local airport because she had been in Maine for a week on business. She called to tell me that her flight was cancelled but the first one out in the morning would get her to St. Louis which was on our way. So I loaded up 4 large pieces of soft luggage in the Forester, a laptop bag, an electric cooler and two backpacks of geology tools for myself. Upon arriving in St. Louis I loaded her weeks worth of luggage (large hard side suitcase, small soft case and laptop bag) into the Forester.Presto--3 weeks worth of luggage and gizmos into the car. Granted the WRX is not as tall but that should give you some idea how much stuff you can pack in a small Subaru. Plus wait till you drive the WRX wagon. I have test driven a GT and it is nice--same wheel tier size and ground clearance as WRX so it should be more fun than any Outback except maybe the sport but the acceleration of the WRX is such a rush it is unbelievable. (OK so gas on trip will cost more)