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Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Wagon
#2347 of 11746 Subaru vs. Ford
Aug 13, 2001 (1:37 pm)
I would be wary of a private sale car that has had a head gasket problem, especially at that high mileage. You have no recourse from a private sale if there are further problems. A few months ago we traded in a 1993 Taurus on a 2000 Legacy. It was our first experience with Taurus and I think our last. During the early 1990s, Taurus had a history of head gasket and transmission problems. Given the two choices, I would have the Taurus checked out by a Ford mechanic and then only buy it with an extended warranty. I would also try to get them to drop their price on the Taurus or give you the extended warranty at that price. You may want to check out the vehicle's history via the VIN number to ensure it has never been wrecked. Good luck.
Aug 13, 2001 (2:20 pm)
If its been well cared for you'll probably be able to squeeze around 200K out of the Sube before the big bills start to roll in (I know many people get much more but some get less). On the Taurus you'll be lucky if you get to 120K.
You AC will break the day after its 5 year anniversary and will never be the same again.
On the Sube your looking at shocks, belts, starter, alternator, vavle jobs and other "Accessories" going between 100-130K. Your CV boots need a good looking at. Have a mechanic have a long look at that engine.
I guess it depends on how long you plan on keeping the car. The Taurus is safe bet for about 60-65K before chances of it costing you big get real. Its got 30K on it now so thats two years of relative trouble free driving.
The Sub has a real chance of racking up $1000 worth of work in that timeframe but after that your good for another 60-90K.
Initially speaking the Sube is going to need more work more often. But once the problem is fixed it is likely to STAY fixed. On a Taurus it will stay fixed for a year or two and then come back. And if its a transmission problem forget it, they just get worse every time.
I think you could get a better deal on a Sube than that guy. I know here in town a 96 w the same miles was going for $10K.
My dad owned 2 Tauruses over 10 years. The first one got 190K before the transmission lost it. He had to have the AC replaced several times, suspension work a few times, brake work (above and beyond normal) and a couple of other knicknacks done here and there. All and all it held up very well for the type of abuse he put it through. His Second Taurus was not so lucky. Tranny started going after 55K and a whole bunch of other issues were creeping up (brakes, suspension, electrical) so he traded it for a Ford Exploder (He likes those fords). Some poor sucker out there is going to buy a Green 99 Taurus with a whole load of problems.
#2349 of 11746 Avenue of the Giants
Aug 13, 2001 (3:34 pm)
Sure did! Spent the night in Eureka, so we did the Redwoods National Park one day and the Avenue the next. Spent the evening crawling through the brewpubs in Old Town (watching the Mariners blow a 12-run lead to Cleveland!). Thanks for the 211 tip - sounds like the hidden roads in Texas hill country that were so much fun to explore.
If it's been a one-owner OB and the guy has good records, it could be a decent car. If you're looking at multiple owners, I'd pass at that mileage and price.
Aug 14, 2001 (4:29 am)
That reminds me, my Escort's A/C system died twice, the 2nd time to the tune of $700. Maybe that's a weak link on Fords?
Aug 14, 2001 (6:33 am)
Ken - Sounds like a perfect Homboldt County tour to me. Especially the brew pubs... Eureka is a nice town.
bit - 2001 GT Wagon
#2352 of 11746 Weak link AC's on Fords
Aug 14, 2001 (9:19 am)
The problem lies with the types of connectors they use on the hoses.
#2354 of 11746 Looking For Aftermarket Parts????
Aug 14, 2001 (4:44 pm)
Recently bought a 98 Outback Legacy and looking to find some places to pick up aftermarket parts. If anyone knows of a way please email me at kloud77aol.com. Thanx....
#2355 of 11746 Question for Sharon
Aug 14, 2001 (5:56 pm)
What's happening with your OB and the pinging problem?
#2356 of 11746 Still pinging!!!
Aug 15, 2001 (3:46 am)
Well it's still pinging consistently. We've washed our hands of the local subaru dealership since they wouldn't even consider taking our car as a trade because something was obviously bad wrong with it (even though SoA contends that the car is fine and completely within normal operating limits). Susan with SoA even talked to them, but they didn't seem to care. They didn't have a problem selling me the car, but they don't want to help me be happy with it or Subaru. So Susan called another dealership 30 miles from here and told them the situation. She had them agree to offer me the Subaru family discount which is $300 over invoice. So I went in, but the prices they gave me are $2-3,000 more than Fitzgerald's up in Maryland (I've been checking out their website thanks to advise on this board). Also they only wanted to give me $18,000 to trade in my 2001 Outback with 10,000 miles. When my husband called the manager to see if they would come down on their price or give us more for the trade in, his attitude is they were doing us a favor, and that we should be happy with that, he also pointed out that there was something wrong with the car. My husband told him that SoA says it's perfect, so who are you going to believe? The legal option is still there, I just don't want the headache if I can avoid it. So we actually are going to talk to Fitzgerald and see if we can work with them from down here in NC. Since SoA is offering us $1500 toward a new Subaru and we can probably transfer our extended warranty, we just lose the least amount of cash that way (actually we could get back more if we pursued the lemon law, but then we have to find another type of car,and again we want to give this one last try). Susan with subaru has been better and willing to help us try to get in another car without admitting there is something wrong with our car.
I've just been sitting back reading everyone's posts waiting for another pinger to emerge...
I'll keep you posted when something happens. I've actually reached my tolerance for the situation and have handed it over to my husband. Hopefully he'll have better luck than I.