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#1831 of 11746 Subaru Service
Jun 29, 2001 (8:23 pm)
Just had to post this experience.
Every car company sells part product, part service. We all know that Subaru makes a good quality product, but what about Subaru of America's service?
I just discovered that their service is as good if not better than their great quality product. To make a long story short, I have been having clutch problems with my 1998 Legacy GT. It first occurred under warranty, but the repair didn't completely fix the problem, because it came back. Now the car is out of warranty (77K). The district rep looked over the problem and the repair record and we agreed we needed to take off the tranny to see if there was an underlying problem. There was, and Subaru is taking care of most of the cost. No arguments, no hassles, no headaches. WHAT A GREAT COMPANY!! Subaru really does stand behind their product. I am soon to be in need of a second vehicle, believe me, it is going to be a Subaru!!
#1832 of 11746 FYI - Fix For Morning Brake Squeal
Jun 29, 2001 (10:26 pm)
I emailed SoA the other night regarding the morning brake squeal. They replied that the fix would involved the installation of some type of shims -- however the fix would not be available until the August timeframe.
Patti - can you also confirm the fix and timeframe?
#1833 of 11746 Cooler For Rear Area Of 01 OB Ltd
Jun 30, 2001 (10:11 am)
Does anyone have experience with the Subaru 12 volt cooler that is sold as an accessory? Are there other products from companies like Coleman that are more practical or lower in cost? Any comparisons previously made are appreciated.
Does the cooler draw power or run while the car is turned off and how long might I safely use the cooler before the car battery runs down? What is the experience with the 120 volt AC adapter?
#1834 of 11746 $26,000, is it a good deal for L.L.Bean?
Jun 30, 2001 (1:35 pm)
I got my L.L.Bean last sunday with sell price $25,990 in Seattle area. It's about $1100 less than edmunds invoice price for L.L.Bean. Is this a current price for L.L.Bean? I may post details if anyone interested in it.
#1835 of 11746 CD, Cooler, LLBean
Jun 30, 2001 (4:56 pm)
dab - sorry to hear about your cd. I have the single cd installed by my dealer. No problems. In fact, it has never even skipped - very impressed since my Sienna tends to skip now and again (of course the kids are a factor).
Rob - I believe the cooler is made for Subaru. I have seen before in this forum that people have purchased non-Subie coolers for the better price. My salesman even told me to go elsewhere to purchase the cooler due to price. As for it drawing on the battery, I can't remember what the manual said, but it should be in there. (maybe I'll check tonight).
ddty - $25,990 for a Bean?? Do you know someone? That is a great price. Did it come with tires?? I guess they are not selling as well as expected, but, still great cars. Congratulations and welcome to the club.
#1836 of 11746 cooler
Jun 30, 2001 (7:56 pm)
Electric coolers come in a whole range of sizes and prices. I own more than one and the best I have used is one made by Koolatron. You need to buy some blue ice because none of them cool down quickly and also when you have the car off it will help hold the cold temp. On an extended trip I use it as a fridge in hotel rooms. So the 110 volt adaptor is a great accessory for one of these things.
#1837 of 11746 Which model OB to buy?
Jun 30, 2001 (8:35 pm)
I think I've now read every message in this group about the Outback. I've rented the H-4 a couple of times and really enjoyed it. Haven't had a chance to test drive the LLB yet.
I continue to be amazed by all of the positive comments about these cars. As has been noted before, the other groups seem to complain more about their cars than praise them.
I really undecided about which model to get. I think I've ruled out the VDC due to cost. If I can get a Bean for $26K that may be the way to go.
However, I don't really like the sunroofs on the LTD and Bean. The front doesn't really do anything for me since it just pops up. However, I really want leather interior. Is it possible to get leather in the base OB? Other than leather and sunroof, are there any other differences between the base OB and the LTD?
How much better is the performance and mpg with the 5 speed? I'm tempted to go that route except for the Chicago rush hour.
I've also heard the VDC is quieter due to added insulation. Would undercoating do anything to quiet the other models more?
Thanks for all of the advice.
PS - how do I get one of those nifty flags after my name?
Jun 30, 2001 (11:27 pm)
Jim-- I've been doing a painstaking comparison of the Outback vs the Forester and actually have a deposit down on a Forester S-premium at $175 over invoice but I can't seem to get anyone to comment on it over on the Forester board. I've been having second thoughts about going with the Forester because of it's size and IMO, "frumpy" looks. I think the OB looks a lot nicer and is obviously larger and has a bigger cargo capacity. If I were to go with the OB, I'd probably get the LTD. The same dealer told me they'd give me the same price over invoice as the Forester. I think I'd actually be getting a better deal with the Forester because from what I'm hearing, quite a few people seem to be getting OB's for under invoice where Foresters are actually commanding a higher price over invoice because of their relative scarcity compared with the OB's. I'm really at a quandry on which way to go and I sure wish this was an easier decision, lol.
As to your question about what the LTD adds to the base OB, this is what I gathered that is added to the Limited:
*All weather package with heated seats, defrosting outside mirrors, windshield wiper de-icer
*Side impact airbags, front seats
*Dual sunroofs (front pops up, rear retracts)
*AM/FM/Weatherband/Casstte/CD, 8 speakers with bass, midrange and treble adjustments.
*Leather trimmed seating surfaces
*Leather Steering wheel
*Leather shift knob
*UV tinted glass
*Variable delay front interval wipers
*Front door courtesy/puddle lights
*Gold accented alloy wheels
*Body color door handles and mirrors
Does anybody have any comments on the assembly quality of an OB which is made here in the States vs the Forester which is still made in Japan? I heard the Indiana plant had quality problems when it first opened but I'm assuming that those problems have been solved by now. Generally speaking, some people believe that vehicles assembled in Japan have fewer problems than those assembled here in this country (USA). I've heard comments that Japanese workers are more detail oriented than American workers (no flames please, it's just what I've heard others say, lol). In fact, a co-worker told me he'd only buy a Japanese car that was actually made in Japan. Any comments?
and Jim, you've GOT a flag after your name, lol! --Old Glory! But I've run into many on these boards here at Edmunds that change their flags to reflect their heritage. You can do that by editing your profile and changing the country designation to whatever you choose. You must then log-out of Edmunds. If you have auto-log-in, then you'll have to manually log out and then re-log back in.
#1840 of 11746 jim & scirocco
Jul 01, 2001 (5:07 am)
The Subaru topics are generally kind of quiet on the weekends - since everyone is out in their Sube's!
Jim - you've driven an Outback, try a test drive in a Forester. The main thing to consider - the Forester is a tad more snug in the rear seat area than the Outback. So, if you have kids or regularly transport more than 2 people around, the Outback (any of the flavors) may provide a more comfortable ride. The Outback also has a softer ride.
You can get aftermarket leather installed in any vehicle, including the base Outback. Some dealers have packages available, but you could go and find an installer yourself. I personally like the cloth seats better, so ours is the base Outback.
Quality: both vehicles are well built. And a good powertrain warranty is provided - so those parts you talked about getting at an auto store are covered!
Come over to the Subaru Crew topics - you'll get some additional responses (and opinions)