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#11697 of 11746 Re: Outback vs. Forester - What are you getting for the $$? [jopopsy]
Nov 01, 2008 (11:02 am)
The outback is a bit more refined, has a longer load area, and is more "car-like" rather than crossover-like. Also is probably a bit quieter as well.
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#11698 of 11746 Rolling backwards with the auto tranny?
Nov 01, 2008 (6:17 pm)
Test drove several 2009 limiteds with auto trannys today. Very, very nice ride. One unusual thing i noticed though was that the car would roll backwards on inclines when starting from a stop, almost like driving a manual & stepping on the clutch.
It seemed rather weird, so I took out another car, and it did the same thing. My 2003 and 1996 Legacies did not do it on the same incline.
Anyone know if this quirk is new to the 2009s?
#11699 of 11746 Re: Outback vs. Forester - What are you getting for the $$? [jopopsy]
Nov 03, 2008 (9:23 am)
Well, one thing aside from those Mike mentioned earlier, is that the Outback SE also has a limited slip rear differential. That, in my opinion, adds much to the control factor of the car in low traction situations. Assuming, of course, you turn off the VDC.
Aside from that, I would have to run through the features list of the vehicles, but mechanically, I do not think they vary too terribly much.
Take a look at the cars101.com site for a comprehensive run down of features for both models.
#11700 of 11746 Re: Subaru brand overall reliability? [ludergirl]
Nov 03, 2008 (5:06 pm)
I have to say that I have always been a fan of Subaru and the concept of equipping all their middles with all wheel drive. I too have always driven Toyotas and Hondas for their track record of reliability…and I too have been tempted by the Subaru allure…until recently…
Here is the story:
My girlfriend purchased a 2004 Subaru Legacy 2 years ago. At 80k the entire engine had to be overhauled due to a fatly connecting rod slowly destroying everything from the connecting rod on down the line (pistons and crank shaft included). Prior to the rebuild, I had noticed that the head gasket was leaking and had to have that replaced as well. Fortunately, all this work was done under an extended warrantee. All in all, this work would have cost $2000-PLUS had it not been for the warrantee. After further research, come to find out this issue was not an isolated issue (Just Google Subaru 2.5 liter engine problems…)
My advice for new Subaru owners – get the extended (**100K plus**) warrantee – YOU WILL NEED IT.
As for me, my love affair with the rugged AWD Subaru brand is not what it used to be. I will (albeit reluctantly) stick with my Hondas and Toyotas and continue the family tradition of consistently driving them past 200k…without major engine overhauls.
#11701 of 11746 Re: Subaru brand overall reliability? [zsp]
Nov 04, 2008 (5:23 pm)
Hondas and Toyotas are not immune to problems.
I've track driven at least 6 subarus STARTING at 100k miles and put on on 10-20k miles AT REDLINE on track with stock drivelines.
So your arguement doesn't hold weight IMO. The head gaskets are a known issue, they changed the gasket material to fix this issue.
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#11702 of 11746 Re: Outback vs. Forester - What are you getting for the $$? [jopopsy]
Nov 05, 2008 (1:49 pm)
Outback interior is a little nicer, more upscale.
Still, I'd pick the Forester again.
We had a 98 Forester, an 02 Legacy, and an 09 Forester.
My wife and I may argue over which Forester we liked best, but the Legacy would definitely fall in 3rd place. Distant 3rd.
#11703 of 11746 Re: Subaru brand overall reliability? [zsp]
Nov 09, 2008 (3:22 pm)
I am on my 6th Subaru with over 500K miles on these cars, never had a major engine or tranny problem. My first toyota, an 06 sienna needed a new tranny at 44K miles! S... happens even to the best.
#11705 of 11746 Rear Hatch release
Nov 21, 2008 (8:45 pm)
Hello there, my wife and I just bought a used '97 Outback/Legacy. Is there a hatch release inside the car handy to the driver or does the hatch only open at the rear?
#11706 of 11746 Re: Rear Hatch release [Scottola]
Nov 22, 2008 (10:06 am)
There's no separate hatch release. Only opens at the rear.