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#11694 of 11722 Subaru brand overall reliability? by ludergirl Oct 11, 2008 (8:13 pm)
I've only owned Hondas and Toyotas, mainly because I have always found them to be the most reliable - never had one break down, only needing to change oil and perform regular maintenance on them, no major repairs ever necessary. I'm looking into buying a Subaru Legacy because I want a car that handles well in the winter snow, but I am concerned that a Subaru won't be as reliable as Honda or Toyota. How reliable are they in comparison? Is this a car that I can drive for 10 years, 100,000+ miles, without frequent, major repairs? Replies to this message: ateixeira (Oct 14, 2008 10:42 am) zsp (Nov 03, 2008 5:06 pm) paisan (Nov 04, 2008 5:23 pm) cptplt (Nov 09, 2008 3:22 pm)
#11695 of 11722 Re: Subaru brand overall reliability? [ludergirl] by ateixeira Oct 14, 2008 (10:42 am)
Replying to: ludergirl (Oct 11, 2008 8:13 pm) Well, so far you've been lucky, because any car, from any brand, can give you problems.   Generally I do think you're likely to get 100k trouble-free miles from most Subarus. At least free from major troubles.
#11696 of 11722 Outback vs. Forester - What are you getting for the $$? by jopopsy Nov 01, 2008 (4:41 am)
Hey Gang,   Long time member, but been a long time since I've last posted.   Looking to ditch my 05 CR-V (FWD). Since moving to PA, the roads are not exactly like they were from my previous address.   When comparing the Outback 2.5i Special Edition vs. Forester 2.5X Premium, I'm having a hard time seeing exactly what I'm getting in the Outback for ~$1400 more. I used to have a 05 Forester and I thought VERY highly of the Subaru make in general after my experience w/ that car.   Is there anything I'm not seeing mechanically? Is it a quality of drive issue? What say you pros? Break it down for me pls !   Jopopsy   PS Juice, I'm sure you're still here in one form or another. Hope all is well. Replies to this message: paisan (Nov 01, 2008 11:02 am) xwesx (Nov 03, 2008 9:23 am) ateixeira (Nov 05, 2008 1:49 pm)
#11697 of 11722 Re: Outback vs. Forester - What are you getting for the $$? [jopopsy] by paisan Nov 01, 2008 (11:02 am)
Replying to: jopopsy (Nov 01, 2008 4:41 am) The outback is a bit more refined, has a longer load area, and is more "car-like" rather than crossover-like. Also is probably a bit quieter as well.    -mike Motorsports and Modifications Host
#11698 of 11722 Rolling backwards with the auto tranny? by toyo_z Nov 01, 2008 (6:17 pm)
Test drove several 2009 limiteds with auto trannys today. Very, very nice ride. One unusual thing i noticed though was that the car would roll backwards on inclines when starting from a stop, almost like driving a manual & stepping on the clutch.   It seemed rather weird, so I took out another car, and it did the same thing. My 2003 and 1996 Legacies did not do it on the same incline.   Anyone know if this quirk is new to the 2009s?
#11699 of 11722 Re: Outback vs. Forester - What are you getting for the $$? [jopopsy] by xwesx Nov 03, 2008 (9:23 am)
Replying to: jopopsy (Nov 01, 2008 4:41 am) Well, one thing aside from those Mike mentioned earlier, is that the Outback SE also has a limited slip rear differential. That, in my opinion, adds much to the control factor of the car in low traction situations. Assuming, of course, you turn off the VDC.   Aside from that, I would have to run through the features list of the vehicles, but mechanically, I do not think they vary too terribly much.   Take a look at the cars101.com site for a comprehensive run down of features for both models.
#11700 of 11722 Re: Subaru brand overall reliability? [ludergirl] by zsp Nov 03, 2008 (5:06 pm)
Replying to: ludergirl (Oct 11, 2008 8:13 pm) I have to say that I have always been a fan of Subaru and the concept of equipping all their middles with all wheel drive. I too have always driven Toyotas and Hondas for their track record of reliability…and I too have been tempted by the Subaru allure…until recently… Here is the story: My girlfriend purchased a 2004 Subaru Legacy 2 years ago. At 80k the entire engine had to be overhauled due to a fatly connecting rod slowly destroying everything from the connecting rod on down the line (pistons and crank shaft included). Prior to the rebuild, I had noticed that the head gasket was leaking and had to have that replaced as well. Fortunately, all this work was done under an extended warrantee. All in all, this work would have cost $2000-PLUS had it not been for the warrantee. After further research, come to find out this issue was not an isolated issue (Just Google Subaru 2.5 liter engine problems…) My advice for new Subaru owners – get the extended (**100K plus**) warrantee – YOU WILL NEED IT. As for me, my love affair with the rugged AWD Subaru brand is not what it used to be. I will (albeit reluctantly) stick with my Hondas and Toyotas and continue the family tradition of consistently driving them past 200k…without major engine overhauls. Replies to this message: paisan (Nov 04, 2008 5:23 pm) cptplt (Nov 09, 2008 3:22 pm)
#11701 of 11722 Re: Subaru brand overall reliability? [zsp] by paisan Nov 04, 2008 (5:23 pm)
Replying to: zsp (Nov 03, 2008 5:06 pm) Hondas and Toyotas are not immune to problems.   I've track driven at least 6 subarus STARTING at 100k miles and put on on 10-20k miles AT REDLINE on track with stock drivelines.   So your arguement doesn't hold weight IMO. The head gaskets are a known issue, they changed the gasket material to fix this issue.   -mike Motorsports and Modifications Host
#11702 of 11722 Re: Outback vs. Forester - What are you getting for the $$? [jopopsy] by ateixeira Nov 05, 2008 (1:49 pm)
Replying to: jopopsy (Nov 01, 2008 4:41 am) Outback interior is a little nicer, more upscale.   Still, I'd pick the Forester again.   We had a 98 Forester, an 02 Legacy, and an 09 Forester.   My wife and I may argue over which Forester we liked best, but the Legacy would definitely fall in 3rd place. Distant 3rd.

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