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#11545 of 11746 Buying Used '01 Outback: rebuilt front end?
May 30, 2007 (8:47 pm)
My husband and I are currently looking for a used Outback and have come across a 2001 Outback LL Bean 29,000 miles for $13,995. It's a Private Seller and he has disclosed that it was purchased at an auction and it had been in a front end collision but he has repaired hood/bumper. He says he is a mechanic that works only on Subarus.
The vehicle history report has a few problems listed:
Somewhere between 13,000-18,934 there was a "Left Rear Impact With Another Vehicle"
-and then at 28,366 miles the Motor Vehicle Dept. reported Salvaged Title/Insurance Loss
We plan to check out the car thoroughly and bring it to a mechanic for an inspection, but what other huge problems might we be overlooking?
Is the price he's asking fair?
Thanks in advance!
#11546 of 11746 Re: Buying Used '01 Outback: rebuilt front end? [ldobson]
May 31, 2007 (6:07 am)
Smells fishy. They would not total a luxurious, leather-lined H6 model, loaded as it was, for just a hood and bumper. No way, no how.
Let's do the math. A new bumper skin is about $150, a new hood another $150 or so, both unpainted. Paint and mounting would still not cost a grand. Probably $800 or so.
To total a car, they have to pass some threshold of damage, IIRC it's something like 70%. So there had to have been 70% of approximately $14,000, or $9800 worth of damage. 10 times what the seller is claiming.
He's lying. Walk away.
For it to have become a salvage there had to have been MUCH MORE damage than that, a whole lot more.
He's just plain lying. Avoid it.
#11547 of 11746 Re: Buying Used '01 Outback: rebuilt front end? [ldobson]
May 31, 2007 (7:37 pm)
I agree that this is probably something to avoid. But if you want to proceed, I suggest taking it to a body shop in addition to your mechanic. Ask the body shop to check the frame alignment. Hopefully, everything is straight and square. If it passes, then get a four wheel alignment or ask the seller for the report.
For you to ponder...what's the current going price for this car if it were in good condition? Are you prepared to make-up that difference if you encounter problems?
Wishing you the best whatever your decision!
#11548 of 11746 Re: Buying Used '01 Outback: rebuilt front end? [jfl]
Jun 01, 2007 (3:31 am)
While juice's estimate is a bit low for the front end damage... Here is my experience.
With my 94 Legacy Turbo I rearended a honda accord a few years ago. Bumper, rad support headlight, hood, and fender damage amounted to over $3,000 in repairs. Guess what? It wasn't even totalled!
So something is fishy and I'd steer away from it. If everything "looks" good, I'd say it's flood damage.
Jun 01, 2007 (9:29 am)
Thank you everyone for your replies. It definitely helped in our decision to keep on looking for a different Outback. One with a CLEAN title and nothing fishy when we check the history. The money we're spending is not worth the worry of what are we really getting.
Thanks so much.
#11550 of 11746 Re: Buying Used '01 Outback: rebuilt front end? [ateixeira]
Jun 01, 2007 (9:32 am)
Thank you for your reply. We needed this bit of information. We had a friend who works at a dealership run the VIN number and it pulled up even more accidents & sketchy information on this car as well.
We'll keep looking! None of these ~~~>
#11551 of 11746 Re: neck pain [terenceb]
Sep 18, 2007 (3:14 pm)
Sorry to hear that Subaru still hasn't fixed its ergonomics in the 08 model. You are far from alone in your pain. I have an 05 Outback and had the same issues w/ headrest and driver's seat. I posted here and on other forums some time ago, and received a number of helpful responses in re: the headrest--stating that dealers probably won't/can't adjust it for you, due to liability or warranty issues; but that if you remove the headrest, it is possible to bend the metal posts to adjust the angle; with a warning to be careful not to over-straighten the posts or you won't be able to re-install the headrest: make certain that the headrest will click in and stay put at the selected height, and be sure that it still will protect you in a crash. As for the seats: I added a thick seat-bottom cushion (www.relaxtheback.com). Not perfect, but it helps. This only works if you have enough headroom; otherwise, the add-on cushion will raise you up too high. PS: both of my low-beam headlamps burned out (29,000 mi.). Dealer replaced them under warranty and said that the original headlamps on the 05 are known to be an issue. They replaced them with long-life lamps.
#11552 of 11746 Timing Belt in 94 Legacy
Sep 19, 2007 (5:35 pm)
We are contemplating a 94 Legacy, said to have 263K miles. I've been told that the timing belt should be changed at 100K or less, and that a broken one will result in bent valves and a seized engine. True?
The seller claims to not know if/when the timing belt was changed.
#11553 of 11746 Re: Timing Belt in 94 Legacy [klauswa]
Sep 20, 2007 (7:00 am)
Just budget a timing belt replacement in the purchase cost, a few hundred bucks.
That's some serious mileage! Quarter million mile club.
#11554 of 11746 Re: How important is the navigation system? [budrew]
Sep 21, 2007 (10:55 am)
Personally I feel that you are better off getting an after-market GPS system (such as the Garmin or TomTom) rather than the built in unit. You can save close to a $1000; get something you can use in multiple vehicles inckuding rentals; and the maps are easier to update (from what I have heard).
I think you are better off getting the car/color you want and go aftermarket.