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Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Wagon
#11454 of 11746 Re: Legacy/Outback names [gearhead4]
Feb 20, 2007 (11:22 pm)
Sorry to hear that the wagon is being discontinued. Yes, discerning the differences between the Legacy/Outback, and the myriad of trim levels between them, is quite confusing. I took delivery of a new 2007 Legacy Limited wagon (my first Subaru) last month, after about a five week wait (over Christmas break though). There were only a few (as in 4 or 5) Limiteds in the entire state of Calif, while Outbacks are plentiful. Not needing to tow or go off-road, I realized after doing some comparison that the Legacy 2.5i Limited is equivalent to the Outback 2.5i w/Limited package for about $2,000 less; you give up the 2.5" of extra ground clearance, the body cladding, and tire-pressure monitoring, and get about 2 mpg hiway better mileage. Also, the Leg-Ltd has low-profile sportier tires, which trades off a bit of ride comfort for supposedly sportier handling and looks. For my purposes, the Legacy's lower profile looks better---very cool looking, but with the utility snd flexibility of a wagon. Only 1,000 mile so far, not enough for a proper review, but so far very pleased!
#11455 of 11746 Website for OEM parts for OB H-6 2004
Feb 23, 2007 (10:30 am)
My wife took the car to the dealership. They charged around 300 to change the front brake pads and shave down the rotors which were warped. I thought that was kind of expensive.
Does any one have a good website to purchase OEM parts?
I want to purchase the items and take them to an installer so I only pay for labor.
#11456 of 11746 Re: Legacy/Outback names [gearhead4]
Mar 23, 2007 (8:24 am)
Subaru Canada will continue to sell the Legacy Wagon through 2008 and beyond in all trim levels. I agree that it is superior to the Outback in looks and handling. It also fits into my very low carport - the Outback won't.
#11457 of 11746 Re: Legacy/Outback names [subahonda]
Mar 26, 2007 (6:15 am)
I know pricing is relatively higher there, but every so often they do throw you a bone, with more interesting models and some special editions we never get.
#11458 of 11746 Were to buy a 97 2.5 engine?
May 07, 2007 (7:10 pm)
I am looking for a good used 2.5 for a 97 Outback. There is 157000 miles on the car and had no problems till it hit 150000 miles then it just stopped about 60 miles from home. My wife called me for advice and I told her to call a local garage. A garage towed it in and said they would find the problem for $50.00. After paying the fee they told her there was nothing wrong except it was low on antifreeze. It started and she was on her way for about 10 minutes then steam came out from under the hood. She stopped and called me again so I hooked an 18' trailer to the back of my truck and went after her. The point I'm getting to is, I think the engine might have froze up or a sensor shut it down from over heating the first time it stopped. I searched Subaru forums for a possible cause and found out for the first time about the H.G. problems with the 2.5. I did a leak down check and found the #4 cyl was leaking into the water jacket. I pulled the engine and checked the heads for flatness. I was surprised to find the greatest deviation from flat was .001". I got the latest 4 ply head gaskets and a new water pump and re-installed the engine and checked for bubbles in the over flow tank. Everything was great for another 4000 miles, then it started over heating again. There were bubbles in the overflow tank so I pulled the engine again and this time checked the block. I found one cylinder apparently tilted and one side of the top the top was .003 below the rest of the block. The block may have been warped the first time it stopped when my wife was driving.
I called Permatex to see if they had any suggestions and talked to very knowledgeable application engineer. He said that a race engine builder in Arizona has never had a head gasket fail on highly boosted Fords when he used Super 300. It is actually made for marine gas and diesel engines.
I tried it and it worked for awhile then the problem came back. I tried to talk my wife into a BMW 325, but she loves her Sube and wants it back. She doesn't feel as secure in the Beemer and except for the engine the Outback is in perfect shape. Too good to junk.
So here's my question. Where can I get a good used or rebuilt 2.5.
I found a lot of places with a Google search, but would prefer hearing of experiences with sources.
#11459 of 11746 Got I betrayed (check engine light) ?
Jul 01, 2007 (9:36 am)
After ~6month of search and uncertainty, I finally bought my used OB2002 with 46k on it ($12k). It does look really good and it does drive awesome, better than all the others I was test driving. However after 20 miles the 'Check engine' light came on (still drives without any problems). I don't know now what the problem might be(it's Sunday), I just feel it is a little too much of a coincidence. Question is, if you wanted to get rid of malfunctioning car, how do you make the 'check engine' light turn off for the selling process, isn't that impossible ? (i.e. if the seller betrayed me how did she do it ?)
I also talked to the repair shop where they just had done the 45l service and they told me the car was just fine.
thanks for advice
#11460 of 11746 Re: Got I betrayed (check engine light) ? [tigabump]
Jul 01, 2007 (7:15 pm)
Could be a few items. Did you fill up the tank after you bought it? If so the cap may not be fasted tight enough and that can throw a CEL. Or perhaps the seller had the CEL turned off via an OBDII computer which will turn it off temporarily until it re-tests or the problem comes up again.
Hopefully it isn't the latter.
#11461 of 11746 Re: Got I betrayed (check engine light) ? [tigabump]
Jul 02, 2007 (10:47 am)
Yeah, any scanner can turn off the light temporarily. Though if it's a bad problem it'll light up again almost right away.
What's the code? Some times AutoZone will scan it for free, else find a friend that owns one. I have one if you're in the DC area and would be happy to read/reset the code for you.
#11462 of 11746 Re: Got I betrayed (check engine light) ? [paisan]
Jul 02, 2007 (1:03 pm)
OK, I got notice from the Subaru-dealer (call me stupid to turn the car in, but it's a new car to me so I wanted to be on the safe side).
It was the 'Neutral safety switch', this damn thing thought I'd be in neutral when I was driving so the check engine light came on (that's what the guy told me). However, I have a manual...it's a little weired. $170 and now it's replaced. I thought I had left these annoying and costly electric malfunctions behind me with the purchase of a Subaru ?!
I guess after all that wasn't a fraud then but an unlucky coincidence.
thanks for your advice and offer to have it scanned by you, but I live in the SF-bay area, driving cross country to DC is too much of an effort for this
#11463 of 11746 Re: Got I betrayed (check engine light) ? [tigabump]
Jul 02, 2007 (2:00 pm)
I thought I had left these annoying and costly electric malfunctions behind me with the purchase of a Subaru ?!