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Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Wagon
#11313 of 11746 Re: Outback and Legacy [jbrew7]
Aug 08, 2006 (2:25 pm)
I just got a Legacy Wagon 2.5i SE for invoice -$2000 Rebate from Subaru and 4.9%apr. Salesmen said that they sell 10 times as many Outbacks as just standard Legacy Wagons so they seem ready to deal on them. Invoice for my car said they purchased it in Nov '05 so it was sitting on the lot for a long time. They also gave me a fair price for my 2001 VW Passat in trade. I am really happy with the deal that I got and love the car so far.
#11314 of 11746 Thinking of Buying an Outback Wagon
Aug 14, 2006 (5:38 pm)
I need advice! I am getting "graduation present" from college 2 years later--once I get the car I have to pay for everything else--I am between a Lexus IS 250 or a Subaru Outback Wagon 3.0 (I know, pretty different), I'm moving to San Francisco and will use it mostly for weekend trips to Tahoe, camping, Napa etc. Which car is going to be less expensive, more reliable, last the longest etc in the long run? I've heard great things about both, I worry that since Lexus is a foreign luxury car replacing every little thing can get pricey. (not to mention higher insurance rates)
Any and all thoughts are welcome!! THANKS.
#11315 of 11746 Re: Thinking of Buying an Outback Wagon [alyson]
Aug 14, 2006 (9:01 pm)
Consumer Reports rates Subaru with better than average dependability and is recommended. The Lexus is rated with much better than average dependability and highly recommended.
You'll save more gas with the Lexus. Following Safety features standard: Braking assist, traction control, stability control.
More passenger and trunk room with the Subaru and 46 more horses.
#11316 of 11746 Re: Thinking of Buying an Outback Wagon [luvmbooty]
Aug 14, 2006 (9:17 pm)
Both are tremendous cars. Both are utterly reliable, but the Lexus may be more reliable. Both will last forever with reasonable care. As mentioned, the Lexus will get a tad better miles per gallon but the Subaru will be zippier and more practical room-wise.
Drive both. Go with your heart, with the one you love the most.
#11317 of 11746 Re: Thinking of Buying an Outback Wagon [alyson]
Aug 15, 2006 (8:13 am)
If you are using the car as a SF->Tahoe transporter, make sure you get an AWD, unless you want to be crawling around in the slush on your hands and knees on a regular basis at CalTrans chain controls. Suby's are waived through.
Something to consider: if camping is in the mix the Outback will have considerably more cargo space (and also room for skis without having to use a rack). The Outback also is a pretty decent trailhead camper with the seats down in a pinch, key for late night escapes for the city that find you arriving at a trailhead at 2am.
My cousin has a Lexus IS250 and its nice, but for your purposes, I'd say go Outback.
Given the deals Subaru is running right now, I'd try to talk your parents into using some of the money they can save vs. the Lexus up front to buy you an extended warranty.
#11318 of 11746 one more point
Aug 15, 2006 (11:59 am)
if high mountain driving is the objective I would pick Outback XT. Turbocharger makes all the difference with attitude.
#11319 of 11746 Retained accessory power
Aug 15, 2006 (11:59 am)
I was not happy that my brand new 06 Legacy wagon did not have what is now a very common feature "retaining accessory power" that keeps things alive for a while after removing the key. Later I found this very fact had been noted (on Edmunds!).. as a "minus" for the car.
Long story short: I made a black box module that wires in under the dash to give the car retained accessory power after removing the key for a selectable time (2 to 16 minutes.) Does the job nicely.. It has options for killing accessory power, since I don't like it when opening the door kills power instantly - because often I'm out of the car then realize I need to jump back in and use a power accessory... I made it that when you LOCK the car cuts power. And along these lines, I made it that pressing UNLOCK breathes life into accessory power - the radio comes on and is playing when you hop in which is kind of novel.. but also lets me use other accessories without ever having to put a key in the ignition! .. it powers off after a time, or locking the car again.
I also found a one-wire way to get power windows to work when Accessory power is on (instead of requiring ignition power to be on).. Also applies to sunroof on wagons.. so now I can use windows during retained power time.
I've posted the brainpower on doing this elsewhere on another forum, legacygt.com I also offer install kits on a website if you don't want to make your own but buy a complete and tested kit ready to install, with Legacy instructions. Read more about it here
#11320 of 11746 Newbie to Subie- Need help! Which engine, Mileage?
Aug 16, 2006 (5:57 pm)
OK guys, I am thinking of offing my 03 Passat 1.8t that has been a trouble free car and seriously thinking of a New Outback Wagon. I drove the Ltd. with base 4 cyl automatic and find it very good but lacking a bit of zip. Does the 5 speed help?
Also can anyone tell me of ther fuel mileage with the 2,5 (either trans.)?
#11321 of 11746 Re: Newbie to Subie- Need help! Which engine, Mileage? [audioi]
Aug 16, 2006 (7:55 pm)
Boy, my '96 must really be a dog because I swear the '06 OB Ltd I test drove felt like it had "zip" to spare.
#11322 of 11746 Re: Thinking of Buying an Outback Wagon [alyson]
Aug 16, 2006 (9:50 pm)
I'm moving to San Francisco and will use it mostly for weekend trips to Tahoe, camping, Napa etc.
Welcome to the Bay Area in advance! If I look at your statement, it's not even which will be more expensive, but which one will let you do the things you want.
If you take one trip to Tahoe, you'll notice that the area is crawling with Subarus. While the IS250 is a nice car, it's not going to let you do all the things you want to do. You'll need the AWD, extra ground clearance and cargo space for an active lifestyle.
When CHP waves you by during chain controls on I-80, you'll be SO glad you're in a Subaru!