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#11116 of 11746 Tires - GoodYear TripleTred - Great tires by famof3kids

Mar 22, 2006 (10:56 am)

Just wanted to share my experiences with you guys regarding these tires.
 
This was my first 'full' winter with them. All I can say is 'awesome'. I think I posted a review when I purchased them last spring, but, anyway....
 
The tires were great in the summer rainstorms. I have never hydroplaned in them, even when trying.
You won't like them in the winter if you 'like' to play in the snow. You can't with these tires. I always liked to pull up on the emergency brake and slide around and pull in my driveway. It won't work anymore, ha. We didn't have any ice this winter, so, can't comment on ice traction.
 
The tires have made a world of difference in snow traction compared to the OEM tires. I would recommend them on your Subaru in a heartbeat.
 
It is also very hard to get them to loose traction while cornering on dry pavement. You hear tire scrubbing way before you hear them begin to squeal.
 
(No, I don't work for, nor am I affiliated with GoodYear. ha!)
 
 
 
Mark
2003 Legacy Wagon L Spec Edt.

#11117 of 11746 Re: Tires - GoodYear TripleTred - Great tires [famof3kids] by xwesx

Mar 22, 2006 (5:36 pm)

Replying to: famof3kids (Mar 22, 2006 10:56 am)
Interesting assessment. I have no problem making them break loose at will on snow/ice, but much agreed that they are great tires in terms of maintaining control of the vehicle. I haven't used them yet on dry or wet pavement - at least not without ice under the water! - but I anticipate they will work splendidly while eating away at my gas mileage. Eh, there's always a tradeoff. I wonder if Ebony is still following this thread - are you still taking a 1-2 mpg hit with them?
 
My mpg is back up to 20+ with the coming of spring. Still haven't broke +30F yet, so probably seems cold to those of you living in warmer climates. But, we are seeing +20F and greater temps! If it were not for this darned persistent north wind....

#11118 of 11746 Re: Tires - GoodYear TripleTred - Great tires [famof3kids] by occking

Mar 22, 2006 (6:28 pm)

Replying to: famof3kids (Mar 22, 2006 10:56 am)
I too have had triple treads & have put 12,000 on them since early December in my 05 outback. Haven't really been in any situations this winter in which I can tell a clear difference between the oe Potenza's (which have gotten real crappy reviews) but I can tell you this... From the moment I installed those tires, my gas mileage plumetted by about 10%. The reduction was noticed immediately, and I have read on some of the message boards on Tire Rack similar complaints. As you can see I put a lot of miles on and, although I may have gotten a good deal on the tires (something like $440 installed, balance, road hazard warranty, free flat repair, rotation, etc.) whatever I may have saved I am losing in poorer gas mileage.

#11119 of 11746 Tires by ebony5

Mar 23, 2006 (4:22 am)

I often check these pages. The above really does not apply to me as I put Yokohama Aegis Ls4 tires on my car. I bought them because they were highly rated for rain and snow in Tirerack, as well as being extremely reasonably priced. They replaced OEM Michelin XW4s. In my opinion the car handles better with the Yokos in all conditions but the ride is a bit noisier and not as gentle, but again my priority is handling ability, especially in bad weather. I never really took into account gas mileage relating to tires when I made the purchase. It seems sort of a secondary consideration to me, but I have not noticed any decrease in mileage from the OEM tires. Living in NYC and doing a fair bit of city driving I just sort of accept the situation, even with having to use premium gas in my '96 OBW (as per the owners manual)-wsex do you use premium in your '96? Thus far I have been satisfied with the Yokos. I have read that tread wear is not great but I knew that going in and since I only put around 9-10,000 k a year on the car it was not really a factor when I made the decision to buy them.

#11120 of 11746 asking about a high mileage 2000 Outback by bigjohngo

Mar 23, 2006 (10:47 am)

Howdy! I'm living in upstate NY, where have tons of snow in winter so now Im planning to buy a AWD car. I just found a 2000 OB 5speed with 110k miles in the local dealer ask for $7800. Im wondering how is this car after 100k miles? Will it be able to run smoothly for another 100k miles? I checked the engine the other day and it looks little bit dirty and rusty which makes me worried about the maintenance cost, is it expensive to repair a OB? Can anyone tell me your experience with yours OB on a high mileage, I appreciate your help!

#11121 of 11746 Re: asking about a high mileage 2000 Outback [bigjohngo] by ateixeira

Mar 23, 2006 (11:02 am)

Replying to: bigjohngo (Mar 23, 2006 10:47 am)
At that age and mileage my primay concern would be head gaskets, followed closely by the front main seal.
 
I believe a new timing belt it due at 105k miles if it was not done already, and they should change the O-ring (front main seal) at the same time. Just build that in to the price if it was not already done.
 
You can have a compression test done to see if the head gaskets are in good shape. If they are now, at 100k, they'll probably never fail.
 
-juice

#11122 of 11746 Re: Tires [ebony5] by xwesx

Mar 23, 2006 (3:37 pm)

Replying to: ebony5 (Mar 23, 2006 4:22 am)
Oh, right.... my apologies! I was thinking of occking regarding the tires. It is disappointing to hear that his mileage is still so depressed. 10% is quite significant, especially with those miles. Heck, at his rate, his '05 will have more miles than my '96 (and I have a little more than 202K today) in another year!
 
Treadwear and all-season effectiveness (along with price) were the primary factors in choosing the TripleTred for me. I suspect that these are the last tires that will be mounted on this car. I put about 22K a year on mine, so if they last their full 80,000 treadwear I would have 275K (some time in 2009) on the car and I doubt that will happen - at least not while it is our primary driver!
 
I do not use premium. I did for the first few tanks I had it in Alaska, but there was absolutely no change in fuel economy or performance (granted, that was during the first three months I owned it... the trio of hell!) so I stopped pouring my money down the pipe. The overall cost, as a % of price, is much less now than it was back then. I think prices were about $1.45 or so when I first brought it to Fairbanks in 8/2000 and premium (91) is always $0.20 more than regular (87) here. The best MPG was a tank I put in at Spokane, WA. I drove it about 380 miles to some little town in British Columbia before filling up and put in about 12.5 gallons - it worked out to 30.9ish mpg. I put in 87 all the way from Helix, OR to Fairbanks, AK because many of the pit stops along the highway did not carry anything better than 89 and Canadian fuel prices were wickedly high anyway. That 30.9 was my "glory tank" that gave me false hopes! The best since was mid 28 and normal summer highway these days (at least last summer) is 25-26 depending on cargo and driver. If occking's observations hold true for me, I could lose another 2.5 mpg off of that! Hopefully some of the tuneup work I've done and will do this spring will offset it a little......

#11123 of 11746 2002 Outback Coolant Leak/Head Gasket by suebahroo2

Mar 28, 2006 (8:25 pm)

We have a 2002 OB Wagon 2.5Ltr 4Cyl. It has 32K on it. It went today for new head gaskets. It started as a coolant leak and started overheating, etc. There seems to be a lot of information on the internet about it. Mostly from other owners who have had problems, not from Subaru. They are covering the repairs, and we appreciate they easily corrected the problem. But we thought this car was reliable, we bought it because CU recommended it and it fit our needs. Our questions is now do we keep it. Has anyone had this problem with the coolant leak? Has there been anyone who has had a recurring head gasket issue, after the repair. We would appreciate any insight.

#11124 of 11746 Re: 2002 Outback Coolant Leak/Head Gasket [suebahroo2] by bargamon

Mar 28, 2006 (9:10 pm)

Replying to: suebahroo2 (Mar 28, 2006 8:25 pm)
In the book "the world according to Garp" they are looking a new home and at that moment a plane crashes into it.
 
They buy the house on the spot.
 
Why? Cuz "what are the odds of that happening again".
 
Consider yourself lucky it happened under warranty.
 
The new gasket is a better version and you should have many years of service.
 
Its not chronic, but its a weakness that you will have taken care of.
 
If I were looking at buying used one, yours would be at the top of my list BECAUSE you had the new "better" gasket installed.

#11125 of 11746 Re: 2002 Outback Coolant Leak/Head Gasket [suebahroo2] by ateixeira

Mar 29, 2006 (9:00 am)

Replying to: suebahroo2 (Mar 28, 2006 8:25 pm)
CR does note about average engine problems for that year, though it improves dramatically after that, which is when Subaru started using a new gasket material.
 
You should be OK unless it overheated very badly and warped the heads. Did you drive it long after you noticed it was overheating?
 
-juice

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