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#10646 of 11746 warranty and tires
Mar 29, 2005 (7:41 pm)
Some of you may recall that I had a bad accident on Dec. 26th. I was hit on the drivers side jsut behind the front tire by a pickup and a Nissan SUV. Four days after getting the car back from the body shop, looking like new, I was rear-ended in a snowfall in the city, by another SUV, this one a Ford Expedition. I had stopped and the Ford, though only going 30 kmph couldn't and slid into me. It did virtually nothing to his bumper, but his tow hook hit and pushed mine down causing over $1000.00 damage. If I get hit once more I'll have had teh car painted on all four sides!
My Bridgestone all season OEM tires wore out at 46k, which surprised me, but I'm told they aren't great. I needed some winter tires and ended up getting Nokian WR. They are an all season but have the winter rating. I must say they are really great. I am a ski instructor in the winter and they got me through all kinds of snow and slush with excellent hold, not a lot of noise, and they are really good on dry pavement so I can run them all year. They have superb grip in rain, too.
I recently took my car in for the 54000km service and was told that the warranty would be up at 60k. (I have a leased 2003 legacy special edition). I have recently replaced the pads and rotors (which I still am not happy about) but I'm told that I should consider an extended warranty until the lease is up in Dec. 06. I'm told it would cost 500.00 for another year starting at 60k. Now they say that all kinds of sensors could go, and they're really expensive. This is my first Subaru and I don't know if I should get the warranty or not. I welcome your ideas. Do these cars hold up or is it like an Audi where the cars get sold right after the warranty exires? I've got to make it hold out until then. I'm not a hard driver, and don't put more than 20k per year on it. But I don't want lots of surprises coming up either. What do you think?
It would be a Subaru dealership warranty.
Mar 30, 2005 (5:12 pm)
Does anyone know if the '06 Legacy "i" will be offered with the same 2.5L H4 as was revealed in the new Forester? From what I read the power is bumped up to 173 HP. Any info on the torque? Is it still around 160?
I love the power of the Legacy GT but the fuel economy I am not too enthused about. The "i" model gets much better EPA numbers (something to consider with gas prices going through the roof).
#10648 of 11746 Re: '06 Legacy [big_guy]
Mar 30, 2005 (5:37 pm)
I bet it will get a "new" motor, perhaps an even better one than the Forester (Leg 2.5i was already 3HP higher than the old Forester motor).
Mar 31, 2005 (7:37 am)
I asked the reps at the show but got no answers.
Last go 'round, the Forester got the Phase II EJ25 engine in 1999, as did the Impreza, but the Legacy and Outback only got it in 2000.
I think it would be a mistake for Subaru to delay that engine intro, though.
The AVLS engine has the same 166 lb-ft torque peak, but it should rev better and make smoother power especially near the top end.
#10650 of 11746 63Corvette (or others) - Goodyear Triple Tred Question
Apr 02, 2005 (12:08 pm)
63Corvette (I think I saw a tire report by you) or others, I'm considering putting the Goodyear Triple Tred 225-60-16 T rated on my 2002 OB wagon. The OB comes with H rated tires and Sam's club ($102+) wouldn't put them on my car because they weren't H rated. They don't make an H rated in that 60 size. One guy in the garage (not mgr) first said they'd put them on but couldn't warranty them, but the manager then said, no they can't put them on. My orig eqpt Potenzas are at 27K with about 4/32nds+ on them and they are squirrely in rain or snow.
My question is have you noticed any detrimental handling because of the T rating and tire? Are you still happy with them. My 4 cycl. OB couldn't hit the H speed rating going down a steep hill, but they say it also affects handling and tire wear. Probably just an excuse to get customers to spend more??
#10651 of 11746 Re: Black paint feedback [kat95]
Apr 02, 2005 (12:22 pm)
Variety is what makes the world go round. But I'll still give some unsolicited comments. I've had one black car in my life and that was enough. They look very sharp when clean but that had better be enough for you, because beyond that it is all negative IMHO.
They show dust, dirt, scratches, fingerprints, and any dings much more than lighter colors. They require frequent polishing or they begin to look shabby even when clean. They aren't as visible to other traffic which makes them not as safe.
And they get really hot in the summer.
My dealer gave me a black loaner last summer which reminded me again why I don't buy black. It took that car at least 10 miles to begin to cool down on a hot 90+ degree sunny day.
I actually think that a clean white car is hard to beat for appearance and practicality. Then again if we all had the same color it would be a boring world.
You'll enjoy your black car, if only for the experience of owning it. There's nothing sharper when freshly polished.
#10652 of 11746 Re: warranty and tires [cdndriver]
Apr 02, 2005 (2:10 pm)
Actually I've had Subaru's both with and w/o the ext warranty. The last with the ext warranty was a 95 that really had no trouble up until we sold it in 02 w about 90K Miles on it. I think we used the warranty once for something relatively minor. The 02 that we have now w 27K will not get an ext warranty. Actually I think the odds are pretty good up until 60K miles, but you never know. If it was me I wouldn't spend another $500 for one year protection with an 03. Put the $500 aside and if you don't use it, then put it towards the new one.
#10653 of 11746 Rollover rating (Outback)
Apr 02, 2005 (10:03 pm)
I'm surprised to see that the rollover rating for the 2004 Honda Pilot is only 15%. How can this be the same as the Subaru Outback, which is a station wagon. I was considering the Outback because I was assuming it had a smaller chance to rollover.
My other favorite was the Subaru Forester, but the rollover rating is even higher (16%).
You can check these numbers at the government web page:
I feel a little bit deceived, because the salesperson I visited here at the Fields Erthel dealer here in Cincinnati told me with great pride that the Outback had a lower chance to rollover than SUVs.
Maybe somebody will be able to explain me these rating numbers.
#10654 of 11746 Re: Black paint feedback [surrfurtom]
Apr 03, 2005 (4:55 am)
Thank you for your input, alas the dealer could not locate a black legacy for me.
However, I am the proud owner of regal blue pearl.
#10655 of 11746 Re: Rollover rating (Outback) [pichula99]
Apr 03, 2005 (5:30 am)
told me with great pride that the Outback had a lower chance to rollover than SUVs.
Did the salesperson inform you that the Outback is also an SUV?
As for the ratings, they use a formula to determine rollover. Although the Outback isn't as tall as the Pilot, it is narrower so the center of gravity is probably pretty similar.