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#61 of 413 third seat option by conorj Jun 21, 2001 (10:48 am)
I am close to finalizing a deal for a new all road. we want to get the third seat but the dealer cannot show us any models that have one installed (he can locate one however). has anybody purchased the car with the third seat? if so, does it take up a lot of room when folded up? is it easy to fold up? it is hard to remove and install? any other info would be helpful. thanks
#62 of 413 Replies to brightness and conorj by JBaumgart Jun 23, 2001 (10:16 pm)
brightness: The allroad's relatively poor milage probably IS the biggest negative about the car. There are different threads regarding milage over at Audiworld.com - I've seen reports claiming milage figures anywhere from 14-15 mpg in city driving to 23-24 highway. The car is very fast but the milage is only slightly better than my old Jeep Grand Cherokee which had a V-8 engine (with less HP however). I have a short commute with lots of stop and go traffic and to be honest I haven't even measured what kind of milage I'm getting - but I do notice the guage going down rapidly. However if you were to figure what the milage differential (between the allroad and the A4 Avant) really costs you on an annual basis, it isn't that much - probably less than one month's car payment. Of course it depends on how many miles you put on the car each year - in my case it's only about 10,000 miles annually.   conorj: Also check the allroad discussion board at Audiworld.com - there are several threads if you back a ways on the third row seat option. Those that have it really seem to enjoy it but have said it's only for pretty young kids - maybe 10 & under. I think I also read where the 3rd party manufacturer of the seats had some kind of problem which has delayed the manufacture of allroads which are being built with that feature. This may explain why your dealer would have to trade with another dealer to get one - I believe they are in very short supply at the moment.
#63 of 413 Allroad is expensive Passat 4Motion by saedave Jul 03, 2001 (5:13 pm)
Before you spend one and one half times as much......take a good look at the Passat 4Motion wagon. It has more interior room, nearly identical appearance, almost the same engine less the turbos, and no adjustable suspension. The performance is not that much worse than the not-too-fast Allroad. It is great in snow. I have driven mine off road on country trails, but clearance is limiting.
#64 of 413 allroad is a little more than a passat. by zscott1 Jul 27, 2001 (11:53 am)
The turbos make a big difference. That is like saying that an A4 2.8 is the same as an S4 minus turbos. Yes they both have AWD, and similar size, also if you are going to look at the Passat then you should look at the A6 Avant, that is the same, and can be had with the exact same engine. One other big difference is the allraod can be had in a manual tranny.
#65 of 413 All Road Vs Subaru Outback or 4 Runner by mybenje Aug 01, 2001 (7:55 am)
I am ready to buy one of these, I am curious if any body had looked at LL bean Outback or a 4 Runner. I can afford the Outback, but I am struggling with spendind an extra 20K for an All road or 10K for the 4 runner.   Which one is the best buy in the long run?   Thanks
#66 of 413 Comparisons by mikenk Aug 02, 2001 (5:33 am)
We went through your same dilemma. We compared the Passat, Outback VDC, Volvo XC, and Audi A4, A6, allroad. For various performance reasons, we preferred the Outback over all the cars except for the Audi A6 and allroad, but could not find an A6 and the allroad was just way too much. The Allroad is a beautiful car but an extra 20K: OUCH. The cost of ownership logically will also be higher.   We did not consider the 4-Runner; don't like SUV's. My son has one; there is really no comparison on ride and comfort between the two: truck versus car.   Overall, we have been very pleased with the OB VDC: very quiet, responsive, comfortable, great stereo. The Bean version is similar except for stereo and lack of Stability control system.   Mike
#67 of 413 allroad vs. Outback by JBaumgart Aug 03, 2001 (8:31 pm)
I'm partial to the allroad because I own one but I have rented Outbacks several times in the last couple of years when on ski trips. There really isn't any comparison IMO as these cars are in an entirely different class. The Outback is a great buy but there are numerous reasons why it's $20,000 cheaper than an allroad - power, luxury and sportiness chief among them. I would encourage anyone on a "budget" who's mainly just interested in reliable, safe transportation to get the Outback, but if you can afford the extra high premium by all means take a good look at the allroad - awesome vehicle and well worth it, again IMO.
#68 of 413 Allroad vs Outback: take 2 by mikenk Aug 04, 2001 (5:19 am)
I agree with you; I believe the Allroad is in a class by itself concerning looks and luxury. it is really a classy car.   I do believe that Subaru has done an excellent job with their 6-cylinder and associated upgrades on their top of the line models to effectively compete with the Volvo XC, Passat.   Without cost in the equation, my preference would be Allroad, A6 Avant, Subaru VDC, Volvo XC, Passat.   Mike
#69 of 413 Audi S6 Avant by l943973 Aug 10, 2001 (6:23 am)
Does anyone know when the S6 Avant is coming to the US? I hear its pretty soon from the magazines (C&D, R&T, MT, etc). (4.2L V8 340hp). I looked at the BMW 540 wagon, Audi allroad and was leaning toward the allroad for its quattro system but not really a big fan of turbos. I think the S6 would meet all my needs.
#70 of 413 S6 by allroadq Aug 13, 2001 (1:15 pm)
I believe that it is comming out either late 2001 or early 2002

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