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#41 of 413 ramon by rjsen Jan 31, 2001 (12:55 pm)
As much as I dislike the popularity of SUVs, I think vehicles like the allroad are part of the solution, not the problem. The allroad, at its heart, is an A6 wagon, which is a very capable on-road car. They simply add on the variable height suspension to make it more SUVish (and pull in SUV shoppers), whie retaining it's car-like handling and on-road driving dynamics. Wagons like the allroad and Volvo XC are exactly what most SUV buyers should be getting -- AWD wagons with light off-road abilities that don't sacrifice on-road behavior.
#42 of 413 Audi Allroad vs. Benz E320-4Matic by nelly33 Feb 03, 2001 (3:11 pm)
I have a Mercedes Benz E320-MATIC on order and due in on February 15. The same dealer sell Audi's as well. Presently I have an '98 A6 Wagon and although I am happy with the performance, I have been extremely dissatisfied with the reliability and subsequent service. The car has required a new radio, new cluster, new coolant, new battery,new brakes and a few other repairs off the top of my head. The car overheated in the summer and it took the service department over a week to get it back to me and then a week later something else went wrong. Anyway, I did'nt even consider an A6 the second time around. Until today. I test drove the Allroad and thought it was a great car. There are more standard features offered and it goes for approximately 10k less. I am now considering the Allroad, but the history of my A6 is haunting me. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
#43 of 413 RE: allroad vs. Benz E320-4Matic by slukats Feb 06, 2001 (12:22 pm)
I have had my allroad since late December and have just loved it. It is a blast to drive. I guess the jury is out regarding reliability.   You might want to check out the Audi allroad forum at audiworld.com. There are many posts on the product.
#44 of 413 Allroad vs all others by allroader Feb 10, 2001 (3:57 pm)
We looked at all the usual suspects for a light duty off road wagon (including wagonoid vehicles) and chose the Allroad, three months ago. At 4000 miles, I think it was a good pick. Fit and finish were excellent. Great ergonomics, visibility, etc. Good acceleration, mild turbo lag, very good handling (for its weight), great brakes, fair gas mileage (ave. 18.5mpg).   It has done some light off road and sandy washes, and performed fairly well. The height leveler is not a gimmick.   The Bose stereo upgrade is well worth it as is the cold weather package.   Only problems so far was faulty fuel gauge sending unit and a slight engine (not the turbo) whine, on hard acceleration. Fixed the former, no action on the latter by Audi.   This car replaces the Subaru Outback LTD ('98) for us. It is so not in the same class as to not warrant a comparison.   The Allroad is a great SUV alternative; and is as much fun as I can imagine having, while being in a wagon. Lots of compliments on appearance.
#45 of 413 allroad tires by sgbassin Feb 11, 2001 (4:10 am)
Took the allroad for a test drive and came back with a front flat tire. Was wondering since these are new tires for the companies Goodyear and Pirelli ( these where Goodyears)if people have been having any problems.Also how about tread wear. Otherwise what a great car!! Thanks -- Stan
#46 of 413 Flat Tires by JBaumgart Feb 11, 2001 (8:29 pm)
There have been no reports that I've seen of allroad owners experiencing flat tires. I'm also a regular reader of the allroad forum at AudiWorld.com and do not recall seeing any mention of flat tires. Your flat on your test drive must have just been one of those things.
#47 of 413 A6, Allroad or Suburu Outback? by roseboom1 Feb 14, 2001 (7:32 pm)
We have been looking for a vehicle to replace our Explorer. WE have several parameters that we are looking for that include: must get better mileage than we get in the Explorer -15 hwy on a good day. We need to be able to take a total of 4 adults with all of their gear skiing for a long weekend. We need to be able to put two - 17 foot kayaks on top. It must be 4 wheel or all wheel drive (we never want to have to put chains on) and finally, it has to be comfortable.   This brings us to the dilemma.   We *really* want to like the Outback. It has everything we want except for one thing. It is really uncomfortable. the seats are small and hard. The depth of the seat is really short. for long trips (most weekends in the winter are 4-5 hours to the mountains) this is not good. I said we really want to like - we just don't. If we could get big comfy seats it would be perfect.   Enter, the Audi A6 Quattro. Great car. VERY comfortable. Also pretty expensive. This would be o., but when we inquired about the tires - the dealer told us NOT to switch to a now/mud rated all terrain tire. He said that the performance would be really bad. Is this true? He said that we might consider having a second set and switching them out for ski season. the reason the tire issue is so big is that we don't want to have to put chains on. We ski mainly in Tahoe and most snow conditions here call for chains OR 4 wheel/all wheel with snow/mud rated tires. the worst we will drive in is with cans required to be carried, which is stage two. If it gets to stage three - 4 wheel/all wheel must have chains - we aren't going anywhere!!! Also, we notice that the spews call for premium gas. What about mid grade? Or a different question is ... if we get the A6 and we use premium - what type of emissions are we talking about?   Of course, the tire question is answered with the All Road. Of course, I don't need this whole hydraulic thing. I just want to get to the snow. So, is the hassle and premium on the Allroad worth it? I haven't driven it yet - how different is it from the A6?
#48 of 413 re: roseboom1 by rjsen Feb 14, 2001 (8:32 pm)
I can answer a few of your questions about the A6 (I'm guessing you were refering to the Avant). First, if you get performance winter tires (Michelin Pilot Alpins, Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22s, or anything else H-rated), and don't drive like Mario Andretti, you should be fine. H-rated means rated to 130mph, which is what the A6 is governed at (heck, the stock tires are H-rated). Second, you really do need to use premium gas. If you don't, you'll notice a loss in performance due to retarded ignition timing and possibly even 'knocking'.   As for the allroad, it comes with M+S rated tires. It also has a considerably more powerful engine (2.7-liter biturbo vs. 2.8 liter non-turbo for the A6 Avant). Many people dislike turbos because they think they're unrealiable, but there's no evidence to suggest that a turbocharged engine is any less trustworthy than a non-turbo one. In addition, the turbochargers will give you much better performance in the thinner mountain air since they forcefully feed air into the engine. Oh, and you'll still need to use premium gas. If you can afford it, I think you'd probably appreciate a lot of what the allroad offers. On the other hand, you should be able to easily modify a normal A6 to fit your needs. Go check them out for yourself.
#49 of 413 roseboom1 by albert123 Feb 16, 2001 (1:56 pm)
Have you considered SUV with better than Explorer's MPG? That'll give you more choices -- MDX, ML and RX300 all with 16/20 or better mileage. They definitely meet your 4 adults plus their long weekend skiing gears and 2 kayaks on top need nicely. The allroad is great, but much more expensive($45K+) compared with A6 Avant and Volvo XC (both around $40K).
#50 of 413 Anybody used the GPS Navigation on the allroad? by rock342 Feb 17, 2001 (4:55 pm)
Does anyone out there who owns an allroad purchased the optional Audi gps navigation system??   I have scoured the web for information about it and come up blank. Even the car review sites only mention it in passing...   I'd appreciate if someone could give some details about this system, the map CD's, where you have to put them, how many are required for the whole US, does it include 'points of interest' like so many other, would it be better just to add on an aftermarket system like the Alpine?   Many thanks in advance!

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