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#21 of 413 bollinger by beanboy Aug 14, 2000 (1:45 pm)
FOr a rally-spec A4, I was thinking along the lines of taking an S4, putting on a traditional raised suspension and keeping an eye on the weight while fiddling with various slight engine/lighting/interior/exterior accouterments. Make it a limited release and have some sold to folks who are into the whole SCCA ProRally tours here in the US, similar to the deal DC had for the first year Neon ACRs. Heck, could even be called an RS4 here in the States, tehe. -Beanboy
#22 of 413 rally spec A4 by bollinger Aug 15, 2000 (6:25 pm)
That sounds great. You're really going to have to pull a lot of parts off since the A4/S4 is at its heart a luxury car. You could probably dump 50 lbs just of sound-dampening material (look inside the front fenders at the door openings!). If you are going to change the suspension, breaks, and tweak the engine, you might do well to buy A4's (perhaps even 1.8Ts) and replace the engine with a 2.7T engine instead of buying S4s from Audi which are limited edition and high profit margin. Would take a lot of front-end work though. Ooh, then you need to buy new trannies also (1.8T is 5-speed). Ouch. That's about $8K right there. Maybe that wasn't such a good idea. I don't know why I never responded to the torque question above. I'd be surprised if the torque band is wider on the E320 or the X5. the E320 didn't feel wider to me, and I've never driven the X5. Trust me, the 2.7T engine is smoother and more powerful in every way than the E320 engine. The 2.7T engine is making full torque (258 ft-lbs) at 1800RPM. Audi can claim this because they lie about full torque. The engine makes 258ft-lbs from 1800RPM to 3400RPM, and Audi claims it is flat. Actually, it peaks at about 270 or 275, and drops slowly toward 258 at 4000RPM.
#23 of 413 Same for a rally edition... by beanboy Aug 17, 2000 (2:27 am)
Don't think a factory low-volume, high-priced rally-edition from Audi based on the S4 would have any trouble selling. Heck, a decent-sized aftermarket company could probably handle the costs of transforming an S4. -Beanboy
#24 of 413 A4 wagons? by bgkanne Aug 17, 2000 (7:27 pm)
Has anyone seen A4 wagons on the road? I have only seen one of the 3 series BMW wagons and not a single A4 wagon, and I am in the most German intensive car area in the US. I suspect the lack of interior room in them is killing their sales. Passat wagons are everywhere, as a comparison.
#25 of 413 A4 and A6 wagons by bollinger Aug 18, 2000 (1:12 am)
Are somewhat common around here, especially in SF. I agree there are more Passat wagons, but that's probably just because there are a lot more Passats. I agree the A4 doesn't make much sense as a wagon. Putting a big rear end on a car with small rear seat room isn' t the best idea.
#26 of 413 A4 Wagon space by MorganConrad Aug 23, 2000 (7:10 pm)
It's a great car for a dog - lots of space in the back for them. My dog wouldn't fit very well in the BMW 3 touring. Most Avant owners I know wonder why anybody would get the A4 sedan.
#27 of 413 I wonder also by bollinger Aug 24, 2000 (6:55 am)
I wanted an A6 2.7T Avant, and Audi doesn't make one in the US. They make the allroad now, but it was unannounced when I bought mine. I had to pick between the 193HP wagon or 250HP sedan. I took the sedan. Audi now offers an S4 Avant in the US. Rear seat is too small for me though.
#28 of 413 When will they be here by darenjpdx Oct 15, 2000 (2:43 am)
I test drove an A6 today and almost bought an A6 Avant; coming home I saw more info about the Allroad. I'm very interested. I searched the web for info about current US availability, but found nothing. I'm wondering if anyone knows anything (even rumors) about when the Allroad will be available here in the US. I'd very much like to get one.
#29 of 413 allroad by tcedwards Oct 15, 2000 (2:01 pm)
possibly due in next week, if our salesperson is correct
#30 of 413 A6 Avant by bgkanne Oct 24, 2000 (8:56 pm)
The A6 Avant appears to be the best cross over wagon currently available, though I bet the Japanese will develop their own in the not too distant future. Current Subaru's really don't fit this category.

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