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#1900 of 1931
Re: P9, brake failure, brake feel (Re: Sevice Action P9: Sevice the Air Ple [davew5] by silverblue
Jan 17, 2008 (1:46 pm)
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Replying to: davew5 (Jan 16, 2008 10:08 am)

Hi Dave,
 
With regard to the sinking brake problem, my mechanic, in the UK, has changed the master cylinder and the old one shows signs of corrosion/rusting - whether this is a sign of the problems caused by the water in the servo and other problems I cannot tell.
 
However the result is now that the brakes all feel OK and do not sink when continually pressed.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Rod
#1901 of 1931
Re: P9, brake failure, brake feel (Re: Sevice Action P9: Sevice the Air Ple by davew5
Feb 17, 2008 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: silverblue (Jan 17, 2008 1:46 pm)

Once again, many thanks to Rob and the rest of the folks in this thread. The short version is that it looks like things are fine now, and I'm driving my Passat again.
 
For those who want the gory details of how I managed to get from bad brakes to working brakes without paying a lot of $$$, here it is, starting a few days after my last posting: before calling VW of America, I went back to Piazza VW of Ardmore (where I had been taking it), and asked them to check the brakes. They confirmed that the master cylinder was bad, and quoted me a price to fix it; I had the impression they wanted me to pay this in order to get the brakes fixed.
 
I spent a day or two being annoyed about this, and then called the service manager, identified myself, and said I wanted a chance to stop by and talk to him in person before I went to complain to VW of America. He was very agreeable about scheduling, and I was able to stop by on my way to work about 15 minutes later. He described in detail what was wrong with the car; my recollection is that his theory is that the bad vacuum booster caused a problem in the mechanical side of the master cylinder, without any water getting into the hydraulics, or fluid leaking out of the hydraulics. I said that I thought this should be covered under the P9, and he agreed, indicating that this had been the plan all along. They then replaced the master cylinder (and the vacuum booster) without charging me. The brakes have felt fine since, and not failed in the half a dozen times I've driven it (in a variety of conditions) since.
 
I'm not sure whether I just misunderstood the original statement about fixing it, or whether the manager of the service department made other calls to VW of America (or the regional VW manager) to convince them to consider this part of P9. But either way, it was fixed on their dime, and now seems fine. I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hoping for the best, driving the car again.
#1902 of 1931
Re: P9, brake failure, brake feel (Re: Sevice Action P9: Sevice the Air Ple [davew5] by altair4
Feb 17, 2008 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: davew5 (Feb 17, 2008 12:24 pm)

Or the third choice: the dealer gets less money from the recall program than from charging the uninformed customer. If you had paid, they would have been ahead of the game. Congrats on getting it (appropriately) covered under the recall!
#1903 of 1931
Re: service action P9 [brayster99] by silverblue
Feb 18, 2008 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: brayster99 (Jan 02, 2008 9:14 am)

Hi,
 
I have since contacted the MD of VW(UK) and the MD of the dealership. They are currently "investigating" the issue. VOSA (the UK vehicle and Operator Services Agency) say that the issue is not enough to warrant a recall although thay have informed me that a Service note went out to garages regarding this in September 2007, about a month after the USA. So much for my garage not being aware of it in December.
 
I am awaiting calls back from VW and the dealership to see how we progress this - I'll keep the thread updated.
 
Rod
#1904 of 1931
2005 Passat owners manual by fogoflyer
Apr 03, 2008 (6:53 am)
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I just bought a preowned 2005 Passat. What I have missing is the owners manual. Being a previous owner of a Jetta TDI wagon, I find they are quite similar but a few items onn the Passat are a mystery to me.
 
The first item: on the instrument panel, on the LED readout I have , on the top line above the temperture readout, I hr/min numbers indicating trip time I imagine. Is there more options I can access?
 
2nd item: On the sunvisor, driver side, I have a panel with 3 buttons. I press each one and a light indicates the selection. What is this panel for?
 
3rd item: In my TDI manual, synthatic oil is recommended. What is the recommended oil for the Passat? (Florida driving)
 
4th item: Where can I get a second key? (other than $250 dealer cost)
 
I would appreciate any help anyone can give me.
Thanks
#1905 of 1931
Re: 2005 Passat owners manual [fogoflyer] by altair4
Apr 03, 2008 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: fogoflyer (Apr 03, 2008 6:53 am)

In order:
1) Average MPG Ø, Instanteous MPG, Trip Odometer, Miles until Refill, and elapsed time - you can toggle these via the rocker switch at the end of the right hand (wiper) stalk. There are two sets of each of these items that I listed. One will reset if the car has been off more than 2 hours. The other won't reset until you tell it to, or until really high values have been hit. You can toggle between the two computers by pressing the rectangular button on the bottom edge of the wiper stalk. The rectangular button will also reset either computer, if you hold it in long enough.
 
2) That is the Homelink system. It can be used to open garage doors, turn on lights, etc. I don't have this so I can't tell you any more about it. Try here: http://www.homelink.com/home/global.taf
 
3) Say "yes" to syntheitc oil - and it must meet at least VW Spec 502.00 (look on the back of the bottle) or, even better, 503.01. Most readily available is Mobil 1 0w-40. Castrol Syntec 0w-30 (must say Made in Germany on bottle) may be available at Autozone in your market. Look for the specs on the back of the bottle. MAXIMUM oil change interval is 5,000 miles. Follow this or risk sludging (coking) your engine if it has the 1.8T engine.
 
4) Can't help on the key.
 
BTW, did you look in the slot under the steering wheel for the manual? That's where it's supposed to be. Good luck with the new car!
#1906 of 1931
Passat Wagon horrible resale value by mdoll
Oct 12, 2008 (5:48 pm)
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We bought a Passat Wagon - 2.0T Turbo model in April and found out the next month we are having another baby. So we bought a minivan and are trying to sell the Passat. We paid close to 28k with options and I'm asking less than 20k now (it is in perfect/new condition with only 10k miles). It's not selling and I'm starting to wonder if I would have trouble giving this thing away. What a waste of money... almost 30% depreciation within 6 months. I will never buy another new VW again in my life.
#1907 of 1931
Re: Passat Wagon horrible resale value [mdoll] by lspiva
Oct 15, 2008 (1:47 pm)
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Replying to: mdoll (Oct 12, 2008 5:48 pm)

It is not a car's having a poor resale value. It's US economy in general. Consumers are spending less, that's why you can't sell it. You should have trade-in Passat for minivan.
#1908 of 1931
Re: Passat Wagon horrible resale value [mdoll] by jwb18t
Oct 22, 2008 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: mdoll (Oct 12, 2008 5:48 pm)

I actually don't think they have had bad resale value either, at least in the past, I had a 2003 Passat GLS Avant(wagon) that I traded after 4 years and 50K miles...got 48% of original value. What state are you located in and what options do you have on yours? Thx.

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