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Volkswagen Passat, Wagon
Jan 29, 2003 (11:05 am)
I purchased my W8 Variant in mid-December, 2002. This is my 2nd Passat, with my last being a 2000 GLX V6 Sedan.
My VW experience with Passats has been excellent. My 2000 had only one non-scheduled maintenance issue in over 3 years...the plastic center console lid latch broke, and was replaced for the cost of the part ($2.99). Other than that, nothing but oil changes and checkups in over 30,000 miles. The car was still squeak and rattle free, with gorgeous paint, leather condition, and materials. As for my W8, it was perfect on delivery, and has been flawless since purchase. Since being broken in, the acceleration has improved and the brakes feel perfectly seated. The 4motion system allows for excellent control in wet weather.
The additions of the indirect lighting in the cabin (a la Audi), the auto-levelling bi-xenon headlights with power washers, the 13" Audi S4 rotors with 4-piston calipers, the and the Audi MFD which includes the radio information in the gauge pod, have brought the car to a level which easily competes with Euro sedans costing 10K-20K more, and have made this the best car I've ever had...something which my previous Passat held the title for!
Hopefully everyone's experiences will be as good as mine with Passats. For those of you with problems, good luck sorting them out. Those of you with very bad experiences, you should buy another car...and I hope you do not have any problems with THAT brand too. I am aware that problems can happen anywhere, anytime, with any car...but the likelihood has dropped significantly each year.
I have owned an Alfa Romeo, a Honda, a Hyundai, a Toyota, two Mitsubishis, a Cadillac, a Pontiac, and two Volkswagens. The Alfa was a nightmare of problems, while the Honda, Toyota and Cadillac were all significant problem vehicles spending almost as much time at the dealership as on the road. The best reliability cars I owned were a 1990 Mitsubishi Montero (132,000 problem free miles), 1987 Hyundai Excel (that's right!!, with a tranny rebuild at 84,000 being the only repair up to 90,000 miles when sold), 1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP (no problems in 37,000 miles), and 2000 VW Passat GLX (no problems in 33,000 miles). If I were to look at only my experience, I would have to conclude that Hondas and Toyotas are horribly unreliable, while Hyundai and Mitsubishi were the best!
Jan 29, 2003 (12:09 pm)
thank you zackie for perspective!
I just got an 2003 gls tip wagon...the only defect it was delivered with is the vent lights on the dash are not working (all four) certainly not life and death situation and will be attended to at the 5k oil change.......I had a toyota corrlla prior to my first passat (rearended and totaled) and it was a great little car......3 starters, 1000.00 in shocks struts, brakes, 3 batteries, broken parts inside the car, and finally at 114,000 the tranny dropped.
Dont' get me wrong I liked the car and it served me well...those things mentioned just come along with car ownership (IMO) the worst car was a 1979 audi fox.......it drove well but it had continuous problems.......I had a 1976 vw van and all I did was change oil and tune it up once in a while......it was great......
the beauty of it all is in america not only can most of us afford a car......we have a trememdous choice of cars to look at........
we tend to complain too much about our good fortune........
#1336 of 1941 mauislick...79 Audi Fox
Jan 29, 2003 (12:49 pm)
Oh, man, you hit a chord with me on that one! I had a 76 Dasher...I virtually lived at the garage with that one! Remember when, back in the day, no one knew jack about that jetronic fuel injection system? The mechanics at the dealer didn't have any better idea what was wrong with than I did. In fact, there were times I definitely knew more because I had studied the Bentley manual until it was ready to fall apart.
We traded that car and a couple of weeks later some poor schmuck called the house, wanting to know if we knew what was wrong with it, when it wouldn't start. I gently asked a few questions about what was happening and what he had already tried. When he got the point of telling me that he was "priming the carburetor" (which it didn't have) with gas, I told him get to the dealer. But I did manage to sell him the Bentley's for about 3/4's of what I paid for it!
Jan 29, 2003 (3:14 pm)
Those lights at the vents are history...sorry another running change...
Jan 29, 2003 (6:57 pm)
it's been confirmed that others have the lights on in 2003 variants.......schematics have been checked and all indications say there there are lights there......I suggest you post at "other" sites about this change if indeed it is a running change.....sorry peter right now I am skeptical..to accept the running change reason.
#1339 of 1941 Body Type
Jan 30, 2003 (11:13 am)
I recently bought a 2003 Passat Wagon and I noticed on my title and registration the body type is 4DSD. This reads as 4 door sedan and not wagon. Is this correct? Does anyone's title and registration have 4DSD?
Jan 30, 2003 (1:13 pm)
the vent lights are history as mr. guild had mentioned seems late october builds (mine on 01/31/02) are sans those little bulbs that tend to burn out and irratate customers to no end.......I just noticed it because I had an 2002 wagon that had them
Jan 30, 2003 (2:04 pm)
The running change must not be included on the W8s...mine has an October 2002 build date, and still has all working vent lights. I kind of like them, though I agree this wouldn't be a reason to buy or not buy the car! Fortunately my 2000 Passat never burned out any bulbs, so I never had to go through the frustration to replace them.
Jan 30, 2003 (7:21 pm)
it seems the late oct. and early nov gls/glx models don't have the lites......mine was built 10/31/02 but sticker inside door says NOV 02...it't quite possbible they didn't exclude them in the W8 not many have chimed in with W8's...except you until someone has one with a nov or later build date we wont' know the answer to this intriguing mystery brought to you by VWAG
Jan 31, 2003 (4:03 am)
Looks like the State put the wrong code on th registration. Maybe the dealer filled out the Title Application wrong, maybe some data entry person in the State hierarchy made a typo - who knows.
I've had wrong colors, wrong years and wrong models in the past. We usually get them corrected at renewal time. Now if the VIN is wrong, THEN you have a problem that needs to be fixed now, LOL!