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#248 of 293 2004 E500 AWD wagon tire /wheel problems
Oct 04, 2005 (6:54 pm)
Hi Benz Owners....had placed message some time ago re tire wear...seems even after replcing orig equip Continentals at 16,000 miles with Pirelli P Zero Nero`sdue to abnormal tire wear along with one new wheel rim and having dealer rotate twice since that time with one dealer alignment there is still abnormal wear with cupping .This causes a pulsating roar that is audible at most speeds in the cabin.The new Pirells have only 6500 mile on them! Have had 3 other E AWD wagons and never had this problem Dealer just not sure the cause..am getting frustrated...Anyone have any opinions or thoughts re this would appreciate..thanx Bowser
#249 of 293 Re: 2004 E500 AWD wagon tire /wheel problems [rolandthrust]
Oct 16, 2005 (10:28 am)
Bowz - is dealer doing a "road force alignment" or some old-school Hans and Franz plumbbob alignment? maybe find a road-force alignment shop - warranty should pay for 3rd party shop analysis/repair if a dealer cannot figure it out.? sounds like your current pirellis are trashed. you might be able to get the current ones shaved beyond the cupping, not sure if that is possible with used tires or only new.. some sort of michelins are probably part of your solution here. i think the Pzero/hero tires aren't setup for the cushy E500 suspension. you can admit now that you wanted that E55 wagon. in the meantime try cold psi of 34 - i bet you were running lower than that before? cheers...
#250 of 293 2003 E500 rear wheel fast tire wear-out
Oct 24, 2005 (8:25 am)
When I got my certified pre-owned 2003 E500, it had only 11,800 miles and brand new tires. At about 19,700 miles I noticed that the rear tires got completely worn out. The dealer told me that there was nothing wrong with it, and that it was normal due to the power of the car. I just don't believe that statement, because power or not, the brand new tires cannot be worn out in less than 8,000 miles. I personally think that the problem is in the differential that doesn't work properly, or doesn't work at all, which puts excessive wear on the tires. Can any one help?
#251 of 293 new developments re; E500 AWD wagon tiresThanx Elias and Bog
Oct 27, 2005 (11:20 pm)
Thanx Elias & Bogdan for the comments...Just recently ran over truck tire flap iron that had fallen from a semi..I was doing 65miles /hr..This necessitated purchase of new tire and wheel rim. on left front end. Dealer did all the work and gave car clean bill of health..Although slightly better, same vibration and pulsating whine noted in cabin..they also increased tire pressure by 2ppsi above Mercedes spec and rechecked balancing...What is road force alignment and balancing ?..sounds like that may help solve this problem..I wish I had known about `low profile tire problems`BEFORE purchasing this otherwise good car. The tires on my 430 CLK cabrio..now thats another story..don`t let me get started on that...Bowser
#252 of 293 What's a good year for a E320 wagon
Nov 05, 2005 (5:23 pm)
We are looking at buying a certified used E320 wagon for our family. Our main reasons are is room, safety and quality. Oh yeah and the fact that it's good looking vehicle doesn't hurt. We are considering a silver two wheel drive 2002 or 2003. Does anyone have an input or suggestions on this vehicle? Is there anything to watch out for or any preferred years? Any input would be appreciated.
#253 of 293 Re: 2003 E500 rear wheel fast tire wear-out [bogdan1]
Nov 14, 2005 (9:42 am)
bogdan, having a performance car eat tires in 10k miles is not particularly unusual even if you don't have a leadfoot. i bet your E500 had/has very soft tires, maybe more so if you got a sport/AMG-ish package? probably they are V or Z rated tires. also, it is possible for an alignment problem to cause the tires to wear more quickly too. if there were a differential issue with your car i believe you'd be able to hear it. bad differentials tend to be quite noisy.
rolandthrust, you are most welcome for the ideas. i'm not sure of all the details of what roadforce alignment means, just something i've heard of. it reminds me of spinbalancing the tires/wheels while they are on the car, which is also possible - that's a much older technology. if your benz dealer folks have
not heard of these balancing/alignment techniques, i bet the dudes at a local speed shops could point you in the right direction. you mention a pulsating/whine. "whine" makes me think "differential". if your benz had 4matic i think it has 3 differentials, plenty of complexity there, plenty to go wrong. does the pulsating/whine only occur when you are on the gas & in gear? if it disappears when you shift to neutral or lift your foot from the throttle at speed ,that gives a big clue as to the root cause.
#254 of 293 Re: 2004 E500 AWD wagon tire /wheel problems [rolandthrust]
Nov 26, 2005 (11:21 pm)
I have 05 E55 with stock AMG alloy wheels.
Had to replace 2, and third repaired. Tires were bent. I live in high end neighborhood. If these wheels get bent where I drive, they aren't meant to be driven on normal roads.
The symptom was wheel vibration over 60 mph, got worse in turns, and when decelerating. Drove with shop steward. He should me how outside front wheel trade was cupped.
MB USA told me to shove it.
I would have your front wheel checked.
Since I put on the new wheels and new Michelin PS2s car has been great.
Best of luck.
#255 of 293 benz shocks!
Dec 12, 2005 (10:20 am)
Does anyone recomend a rear shock absorber for the 300te wagon?
Dec 25, 2005 (10:04 am)
Guys, reading some of these posts, I wonder, "why buy an E Series wagon?" The E Series wagon is more money, more hassles, less cargo room, less reliability, less all weather capability, not as good seating (Volvo seats are the best in the industry, far superior to M/B or our Cayenne seats) or modern an interior, etc. than a Volvo XC. The performance packages seem not to work (tire wear and so forth.)
Now, I'll grant you it has more status (for some unknown reason) when you drop Seamus off at Andover. Come end of semester, he and his friends I think would rather throw all their stuff into an XC for the trip home.
I admit a Volvo XC sometimes is like a walk into Fajulla (see my post #1566 on the V70 Wagon Experience Board) but the Volvo seems to be a much better alternative. Or, at least a less self-defeating one.
#257 of 293 Re: Why? [blckislandguy]
Dec 25, 2005 (11:56 am)
I think you have overlooked an important point. The E wagon has a third row, with total seating of 7. Yet it doesn't look or handle like a minivan or SUV.
Perhaps the R does this even better now, but back in 1994 when we had 2 young children, after looking at a few minivans and the Volvo wagon, my wife took one look at the E320 wagon and fell in love with it. BTW, it still is in the family, now being driven by my 17 yr old daughter, who of course hates it because it is a wagon (yeah, don't we all feel so sorry for her).