#49 of 475 Seats in Sable and Taurus and rear headrests!
Mar 21, 2001 (3:38 pm)
Hi - just a quick note on these two topics. Mike 5806 post #41 mentioned about comfort of seats in Taurus/Sable. I had same problem getting comfortable in a Taurus with bucket seats (leather I think) but my 1995 Sable S/W has the bench seat and it's very comfortable in velour. I also agree with #45 nelsoncm and #46 danielj6 about needing headrests on the back seats! It would help with safety and also, some adults do occasionally sit back there! Volvo, Saab, Audi et al has Ford beat here.
I don't seem to have a problem with comfort in my
Sable s.w. with leather.
I,however,don't believe that 3 rear adult passengers would find that seat comfortable in a
long trip. I had 4 teenagers seating in the back for a 5 mile trip (didn't use the rear facing seat out of sheer laziness to get out and pull it up). These tall bulky young guys were OK or so they said at 3 am Sunday. On the other hand, I
didn't even consider seating one boy in the middle front.
I am having a really hard time finding a 2nd car for our family. Growing up, my family owned Fords (Crown Vic and LTD Wagons) and I don't remember then being too bad. But I will also never forget the first time I drove a Mercedes and how the handling (amongst other things) put the Ford products to great shame (of course--its a Mercedes).
But recently, I have found a lot of cars out there now that handle very similiarly to the Mercedes--including Audi, VW and Volvo (somewhat). I haven't done it yet but am wondering if anyone has test driven one of these european cars and then a Ford/Mercury wagon...and how you felt the Taurus/Sable handle in comparison.
It looks like the Sable premium wagon is a good deal but now that I'm spoiled with a great handling car, I really hesitate giving that up for a good price.
We are considering buying a 93 taurus GL wagon as a second car. It will mostly be a "grocery getter" for me and the kids, ( three little ones, still in car seats). Is this a good idea? Also, can you get the third seat if its missing? The car in question has 108,000 miles but drives well and straight. A mechanis said it needs some AC work but otherwise looks ok. Any input would be appreciated.
First thing, have it checked out mechanically. Are any service records available. Was the oil changed regularly?
Second thing, if it is a 3.8 liter I'd proceed with caution. There is a ton of information on head gaskets on these boards. In addition I know of at least three people who've had head gaskets replaced on that engine. Not sure if the year of manufacture for the 3.8 makes a difference?
As with the head gasket problems, transmission failure is something which commonly "kills" the pre-'97 Taurus/Sable. If you do buy such a car, I'd suggest getting the transmission fluid/filter changed (it's probably due anyways) and have the rubber hose that's on it replaced while you're at it.
It was this hose leaking at the clamp (worn through) which resulted in my '87 Taurus Sedan dying, and it did visibly look bad until it failed.
Sue47 - Proceed with caution if considering the '93 Taurus Wagon. Do not buy it if it has the 3.8 engine!! I currently have a "dead" one sitting in my driveway. I have had nothing but trouble with my 3.8 engine and it only has 97,000 miles on it. The head gaskets went on mine so I am considering donating it because its not worth the repair cost (approx $1,200). But, I have to say I loved driving it. It was very spacious, was great for transporting anything, had great pickup and saved my life in 2 accidents. Despite the problems with my '93, I decided to buy a 2001 (best value in its class) hoping that I will have better luck with this one. For those of you who say Ford should put head rests in the rear seats, I could not disagree more. The new headrests are too tall. I am 5 feet tall and have trouble seeing over the front passenger head rest to check my blind spot. It is such a hinderance that I removed it. Also, I cannot move the sun visor to the driver's side window because it hits the driver's head rest. Very poor design by Ford. They should have stayed with the older design. I didn't have this problem in my '93.
#57 of 475 To Sue 47, about those headrests
Apr 02, 2001 (11:26 pm)
How can your visor touch the front seat headrest????? I don't get it. Well, as to rear seat headrests, the solution is simple -- removeable headrests, like VW and others. It's blatant disregard for passenger safety on the part of any manufacturer who wouldn't put them in today.