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#7 of 1827 2001 V70 Platform by muffi May 05, 2000 (6:56 pm)
Just wanted to add to the comments that tom123 made about Volvo needing a year or two on their platform ... The new V70 for 2001 is actually built on the S80 platform, that is why you can see commonalities between the S80 interior and exterior in this new car. Since the S80 has been out a couple of years now, it is looking like the wagon will be a wonderful car ... I am going to see it at the local Volvo Family Experience event here in Dallas the weekend of 5/13. The car is longer overall and has a couple of inches longer wheelbase than last year's V70 and the turbo version is supposed to be rocket. I drive a 1999 S80 T6 and have nothing but praise for this safe, encapsulated rocket ship. I do my maintenance at the retailer to make sure there is no chance I will void my warranty, although oil changes and the like are probably okay done outside if you keep all the receipts. With 7500 mile intervals, though, you aren't going that often unless you drive a lot ... so why not be sure everything is done correctly!!!
#8 of 1827 V 70 turbo lag by andact2 Jul 04, 2000 (4:09 am)
Just purchased a V70 T5 wagon..fit and finish is lovely but I'm disappointed in the responsiveness of the drive train when hitting the accelerator..this is a momentary delay (.5 sec or so) Anyone have a similar comment or maybe just a simple adjustment will fix it. talk to me..Art
#9 of 1827 by fectos Jul 18, 2000 (8:46 pm)
Prospective 2000 x/country v70 wagon buyer: Cut a good deal upfront because you'll need the extra cash to cover repairs. I have a '99 cross country with under 14,000 miles that has been plagued with problems (brake repairs, check engine lights, electric door problems, auto shifter sticking, three headlights!, one tail light, gas leaks, etc) I essentially like the car when it is running and the dealer, perhaps because I see everyone there so often, has been friendly but the car has been a pain, a constant repair problem (and I've owned Peugots). Remarkably, whenever i bring the car in for another service visit, the Repair Guys say "yeh. . .that's a common problem." Then they fix it. Then it fails again. When the warranty's up, we're trading the beast. perhaps the new version will be better. good luck. chicago
#10 of 1827 V70 Wagon Experience by jmott38 Jul 19, 2000 (12:51 am)
Like Fectos, I love the car when it's running. But I sure am dismayed by the UNreliability and Volvo's customer service (for details on what has gone wrong, visit my webpage, www.myvolvosucks.com). Repair issues are one thing, but when the company OUTSOURCES the initial point of contact for corporate customer issues, you have to wonder how much they care. When the transmission on my 1986 sedan went at 66k miles, I wrote the president of Volvo NA and even though the car was past warranty, he authorized it's repair - because the company knew that I hadn't bought a Volvo to have the tranny go at 66K. With this V70 wagon, we haven't suffered really major stuff, but I've had to go back to the dealer EIGHT times in 15K miles? By the way, when the sedan went, I bought a Camry. Replies to this message: neat (Jul 29, 2005 8:28 am)
#11 of 1827 '01 V70 Wagon by volvo18 Jul 22, 2000 (8:36 pm)
After having many problems with our '93 850 GLT Sedan, I was set on going to a Mercedez or Lexus. To make a long story short. After a month of trying different cars and with 3 children, we went with the new '01 V70 2.4T wagon. Love the design - integrated booster seats, rear-facing bench seat, unmatched safety options and luxury refinements. So we're a week into with less than 300 miles! I have to take the car back on Monday to get it serviced because of a popping noise when accelerating into a turn from a stationary position and the electronic door locks and passenger side window doens't work. Unreal.
#12 of 1827 What is it with Volvo buyers? by bgkanne Aug 05, 2000 (12:27 am)
Other than a reputation for safety (undeserved since the competition has matched and done better in actual crash tests) I can't think of a good reason to buy a Volvo. They are not up to snuff in the reliability department, styling and ergonomics almost always seem to be lacking and the only engines in their line up that seem to perform require the annoying hassle of a turbocharger. They also tend to have inferior ride and handling. Maybe with Ford's help they will develop a proper V6 and get their act together.
#13 of 1827 twoof1 by lmeyer1 Aug 07, 2000 (12:50 pm)
As I understand it, the Saab 9-5 bested the old V70 in European crash testing.
#14 of 1827 lmeyer1 by rollie Aug 07, 2000 (4:51 pm)
Regarding post #15: lmeyer1, the Saab 9-5 is a very very safe car. It ranks #1 or #2 against the Volvo S80 in most tests. In Euro NCAP tests it was the Saab 9-5 and Volvo S80 with the highest marks. In IIHS rear-impact tests, the S80 holds the benchmark for neck and spine injury ratings. In NHTSA side-impact tests, the S80 is the only car with 5-stars for both front and rear passengers. In recent IIHS frontal impact tests, the S80 was one of 3 cars to earn the top rating (along with BMW 3 series and Cadillac Catera). The Saab 9-5 didn't far as well but did quite good. While the Saab is very safe, it is the Volvo S80 which consistently rates the best scores in tests around the world. The new 2001 V70 and S60 (coming out tomorrow) are based off this same platform so they should do quite well I believe. Thanks. -rdo russell.ollieusa.net
#15 of 1827 Volvo facts and fantasy by bgkanne Aug 08, 2000 (12:15 am)
Safety: A few years back Volvo got in trouble with the government for an advertisement where their cars were stacked up to show supposed resistance to crushing. The fact was the cars were reinforced and the test was faked. Volvo allowed this to be published, which shows a distinct lack of business ethics, at the time. I believe this was a 240 series car, which is no longer mfgd. Volvo crash safety is fine; they just don't perform any better than equivalent BMW's, Mercedes or Audi's, for example. In the past, Volvo lead in safety development, but this is no longer the case. US government crash tests are more likely inferior to European tests and neither can accurately simulate the real world. Only death and injury statistics (if accurately compiled) would mean anything, if these are available. All around ratings: Can't say I have seen a comparison test of the S80, but the auto mags and Consumer Reports have never picked any Volvo (that I recall) as their number one choice in any comparison test. Engine: V6 or straight six, either design can work well, however, a straight six is a dumb design for front wheel drive cars, which is why it is rarely used. BMW has the best straight sixes (and they almost never use turbo's) which any enthusiast magazine or driver will attest to. Turbo's are an expensive maintenance headache and for most people should be avoided. I must admit, Ford has made some lackluster V6's except for some that have been outsourced. Their current V6 used in the Lincoln LS (and new Jaguar) is nice, but lacks power for the time being. Audi has similar problems; only their turbo V6's perform well, for some reason. Ride and handling: Every magazine test I have seen always faults Volvo's in this area. If they handle well, they usually ride poorly. Volvo tends to put tires that are too low profile on their top performance models, which severely hurts ride characteristics. They just haven't had the engineering capability (which means financial resources) until now to get the results that BMW, Audi and Mercedes have. Ford and Volvo: Future Volvo's will share platforms with Ford products. With Ford's money and expertise, they should manage to develop some top notch products. The Lincoln LS for example, (which shares it's chassis with the new Jag) has ride and handling that is world class, something Volvo has never been able to achieve.
#16 of 1827 Facts?? by twoof1 Aug 08, 2000 (3:44 am)
bgkanne, You title your response "Volvo Facts and Fantasy" yet once again all you post is your opinion. This is your OPINION and should be taken as such. Not one FACT is presented. This is a free and open board, anyone is welcome to post. However coming in with your OPINION, trolling for a response is ruining your credibility. 1. Safety: Some ad Volvo did 10 years ago in your mind apparently means it is a less safe car. Hardly a convincing argument. Show me the data!! 2. V6 VS Straight 6:  Why is it dumb to put a straight six in a FWD car? It is a superior design over a V6 because you don't need to rely on balance shafts and counter weights to make it smooth. You are correct in your assesment of the BMW I6 I have one in my Z3 and it is a pleasure to open up. This however is not a 6 cylinder conversation. All the V70's are built around a bullet-proof 5 cylinder turbo motor. Your OPINION of turbo's being a "maintenance headache" is just that. You have no data to back it up. 3. Ride and handling: Edmunds new review of the V70 T5 states: "So, it's an attention-getter, a great handler, reasonably comfortable for four adults, and loaded with standard and optional amenities." Car and Driver July, 2000 V70 review states: "I can't recall any Volvo, or any sedan or wagon for that matter, coming so close to matching the exemplary ride of a BMW" and "the T5's chassis is responsive and stable, even when you are exploiting every bit of its formidable capabilities. With an excellent balance of acceleration, handling, and braking, you can cover ground very rapidly without much effort in the T5." and "the V70 T5 is easily the quickest station wagon you can buy short of the very rapid BMW 540i, which stickers just north of $56,000, more than 20 grand above the T5's $33,975 base price." Road and Track said of the previous V70 Cross Country: "On the highway, the Cross Country's stature and aggressive tread are hardly noticed, the XC having Volvo's typical Learjet-like combination of plushiness and precision." I could go on, but you get the point... 4. Future platforms: You got it backwards. It seems that Volvo will be sharing some of it's platforms with Ford. Rumor has it that the next generation of Taurus/Sable will be based on the Volvo S80 Platform. I repeat my questions from my original post which you still have never answered: I am curious to know what you think is the value leader in the Luxury sport wagon class? Have you ever driven a new or previous generation V70? Remember: Opinions are like as*#les, everyone's got one. You are entitled to your opinions even though the FACTS discredit them.

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