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Currently considering the new XC as well as the new SportTrac. Trying to justify the extra 7-10k for the XC. We take trips to Home Depot two or three times a week for building supplies and landscaping stuff. Also thinking family some time soon. Can the XC be equipped to tow a trailer to haul? Have test driven both, and very impressed with the XC as well as the SportTrac, but am concerned with all the negative press regarding the general stability of the Explorer family. In the Chicago area, so Winter weather handling a plus. This will be our first new car and the last one for a while, so we want to make the right decision. Anyone have any other suggestions or advice? Would be much appreciated. |
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My wife and I are trying to decide between a V70 and a Lexus RX300 SUV. Safety is our number 1 criteria. Can anyone shed any light on the safety between these two vehicles? I'm leaning towards a V70, however, I'm getting a bit uneasy reading all the messages stating the small problems with their cars. Can anyone convince me to stick with the V70, rather than going over to a suv? Thanks! Jim |
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I have a Sport Trac which I drive. My wife has a 98 V-70. The V-70 has been a very good car minus the headlight problems. It is also our family car. We got rid of a 4-Runner and a small Ford Ranger when we purchased our Sport Trac. We had the Sport Trac since late May. No problems at all other than the Firestone Tires which were not part of the recall. In July we took a trip in the Sport Trac from Cincinnati to Southern Colorado - two adults and two kids, one dog in the back with bikes and luggage,(1500 miles one-way). No problems. I like the safety of the Volvo, but if I had to part with one them, it would be the Volvo. With our lifestyle the Sport-Trac is perfect. We can haul horse feed, hay, mulch, pets, bikes, etc. As for the 4WD in the Spot Trac, I can answer that in a few months.If you decide to get the 4WD Sport Trac, make sure you get the the Limited/Slip. As for the X/C, you can get a hitch and I believe it will tow 3500 lbs. I also don't know if you want to put bags of mulch in a $37000+ vehicle. If my wife did not have her expensive hobby (horses) I would buy the Volvo. My Volvo salesman has been trying to get me to come in to drive a X/C, but I have been avoiding him. I am afraid my wife would be ordering a new T-5. Have I confused you more? |
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I hope for your sake you stay away from the Volvo. I've had a '99 V70 for about a year and half. I absolutely loved it for the first 7K miles or so. Since then it has been a relative nightmare, although the dealer has been even worse (Ann Arbor Volvo Mazda). The car has had to be taken in multiple times. Most things have been minor: windshield sprayer nozzles on both sides falling off 3 times before they finally got them fixed right, check engine light coming on after fill-ups (faulty gas tank pressure sensor?), outside thermometer not working correctly (still doesn't but I just gave up on it),front bumper grille (where fog lights might reside) falling off, numerous rattles and squeaks which the dealer just cannot find. Recently, however, I'va had more major problems - after driving through some standing water on a rainy day the engine stalled. Since then the ETS (electronic throttle sensor) light has been on and the car has been stalling periodically, as well as running roughly periodically. Here is the worst part: when I brought the car to the dealer for an inspection, I was told they could not look at my car FOR OVER A MONTH!!!, because they had so many others to repair. I've been driving with this problem for a month and half now, and the car will finally be looked it Oct 20th. When I asked what I should do if the car stops running, they fairly impolitely suggested I rent something, because they have many other cars that don't run. At my expense, of course. This is a car under original warranty and on a lease. In other words, if you have a Volvo and only one dealer in the proximity, you might as well have no service for the car. I think the dealership is well aware of its relative monopoly-- no other dealers within 30 miles ( or 1 hr drive, since we live in Ann Arbor of UofM fame, a somewhat distant "suburb" of Detroit ). To summarize, the car is relatively pleasant and comfortable, but highly unreliable, annoying, and has very poor dealer support.It's safety features, while good, are not significantly different from those offered by other cars in its price range (30 - 40K). All it really has is a reputation, and that seems to be quickly eroding. I have a friend who has had a RX300 for the last year -- he loves his car and has had no problems. I wish I had gotten one, too.
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| Some of your issues sound like genuine problems, but a few sound like operator error, most notably the "check engine light when filling up" routine and the "driving through standing water" bit. All new cars have to have the gas cap screwed on THOROUGHLY (several clicks) else the fuel system will think there's a leak somewhere, tripping the check engine light. That's been a common issue with all makes, not just Volvo. As for the problems caused by driving through standing water, well, while it does sound like your dealer service has been substandard, even incompetent, I don't want to sound callous, but come on, you drove your car through standing water; of course there's the possibility some electrical system got shorted, or worse, water got into the air intake. | |
| I'm thinking about buying the new 2001 Cross Country. Does anybody have any experience regarding the towing capability of the 2.4 turbo engine? I plan to tow a "pop-up" camper that weights 2,000 pounds - so it is well within the rated towing capacity of the XC. However, I'm somewhat concerned about the "real" ability of the engine to tow the camper. Currently I tow the vehicle with the 4.0 liter SOHC engine in the Ford Explorer. Also, if anybody has a 2001 XC - I'd appreciate any feedback (good or bad) that they have regarding the vehicle. Thank you. | |
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Hi, We are considering buying a '01 XC but are concerned about the hassle of bringing the car to the dealership numerous times, even for minor items. For example, we've heard that if the gas cap is not turned three clicks, the "check engine" light comes on and can only be turned off at the dealership. We live in a state where there are no self-service gas stations; so, this might occur. For those who have bought XCs in the last several years, how often have you needed to bring the car in for non-scheduled maintenance? How bout for those of you who have Subarus or Passats? Thanks so much!!! Bert |
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Regarding post #63: Bert, the gas cap issue you mentioned is a feature not a bug! It is common to all new cars that are OBDII compliant (I think that means all although I'm not sure about SUVs). A loose gas cap triggers a fault in the gas vapor removal system and stays on for a specified period (X miles and several driving sessions) if there is no additional fault. If there is no additional fault after the problem is fixed the light does automatically reset itself. Hope this helps. Thanks. -rdo rdollie p.s. - The light will also be triggered if the car is fueled while the engine is still on or in some cases if you 'top-off' the fuel and put too much in the tank. |
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| My wife owns a 99 v70xc, bought in 8/00 with 15k. Since that time i leased a 00 528. i was ready to trade out to either a RX300 or MDX last week. Have decided to wait and save money. My wife says little things always happeneing. It also seems to rattle alot. I feel the Volvo is overpriced. I like the RX better, but don't know if i'm ready to take the hit on a trade or sell. Talk to owners of both that have had them about a year. If i had to do it again, i would buy the RX300. Try to get them to cut the price. J&M lexus qouted me 39.9 for 2wd w nav. | |
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Regarding post #65: tgame80, the RX300 is a nice little truck (a little too much like the moon rover in looks for me personally but for many happy buyers that's OK). Just be sure it has enough usable cargo space for you because I'm pretty sure it's smaller that the V70 from my experience with it. Also, make sure you stick to buying a new one and not a used one. The RX300 had major reliability problems a couple of years ago when it first came out and it actually ended up costing Lexus their J.D. Powers reliability top spot for a year (it went to Infiniti as I recall). From what I've read of late it sounds like Lexus was able to fix the RX300's problems much quicker than say Mercedes and the ML. Similarly, it has taken Volvo a while to fix the rattles with the '98 V70s. I've been in (and bought) the latest (2001) V70 and it seems to be problem free now with the exception of an owners of one of the earliest ones who had his turning signal light sockets replaced like earlier 70 series cars. At this point I think the RX300 and V70 are both quite stable. I would shy away from the MDX (at least for 6 months or so) because it is so new. Good luck. -rdo rdollie |
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