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#1668 of 1905 XC70 just keeps on trucking
Jul 24, 2006 (7:10 pm)
Just spent a long weekend in our 2001 XC70 and loved it. Loved it so much that despite some maintenance issues (see earlier posts) we might re-up for a 2007. Up in Maine seemingly every fourth vehicle was either a Suburu or a Volvo. One thing about a V70 is that even our relatively "older" one is quite comfortable, no rattles, and still stylish. Sure, it would be nice to have DSTC and Zenons but seemingly little else has changed.
A note to those who use Mobil1 10-30. Reading the oils forum here on Edmunds has me convinced to use 0-40 Mobil1 year round for three reasons. The "base stock" in this grade is superior to that in the 10-30, it is afterall the same price, and , finally, on a hot day the extended range up to 40W will give you more protection.
Speaking of hot days, even here in New England I find that after a brisk drive in July when I shut down the engine, the auxilliary fan comes on to blow hot air out of the engine compartment. Is my aux fan overly sensitive or is this standard all year long in such climates as Houston? To help out, I raise the hood. No other car that I've owned has done this (or had such high under hood temps).
#1669 of 1905 Re: Took T5 in for an oil leak, leaving with new engine?!?! [volvomax]
Jul 25, 2006 (5:30 am)
Okay, now the extended warranty company (which is the Volvo VIP warranty) is refusing to pay for the new engine block, insisting instead that the dealer take it apart and attempt to repair/replace the anaerobic seal. Volvo factory rep insists that this will not fix the problem. Service advisor tells me that if this were under the "real" warranty, they would be replacing the block. I am not pleased, as the reason I sprung for the Volvo authorized extended warranty was so that my warranty coverage would be seamless. The separate company that administers the extended warranty is wholly-owned by Ford, which of course owns Volvo as well - I am furious that they are arguing with each other.
In any event, I am not given comfort by my service advisor's mention to me that they have never attempted such a repair, that the standard labor hours for this repair are 20, but that it will take much longer. This, of course, means that the technicians will avoid this job like the plague since they are paid a flat rate.
I am calling VIP warranty today to unleash a little frustration... more updates later.
#1670 of 1905 Re: XC70 just keeps on trucking [blckislandguy]
Jul 25, 2006 (5:45 am)
A team leader mechanic at my Volvo dealership in Dallas told me that Volvo has directed a small amount of a/c from the passenger compartment into the engine compartment to cool a computer module. This may be the small fan you are hearing. Or it could be something to do with the emissions--the carbon cannister. I hear this on our V70.
Raising the hood to cool the engine compartment is something that some people think is beneficial. I can't believe it is worth the trouble and extra wear on the hood mechanism. A hot day in New England? Get real.
#1671 of 1905 Re: XC70 just keeps on trucking [blckislandguy]
Jul 25, 2006 (8:24 am)
most modern cars will run the aux cooling fan after shut down if conditions warrant it.
Here in AZ we have hot days(don't consider any day in NE hot!)
Even when it is 115 degrees outside we never have overheating problems. Hewck, my S60's temp gauge never goes over mid way.
#1672 of 1905 Re: XC70 just keeps on trucking [volvomax]
Jul 25, 2006 (8:38 am)
...don't consider any day in NE hot!
Trust me - 94 degrees and a dew point of 75 is hot. "It's jungle hot."
#1673 of 1905 Re: XC70 just keeps on trucking [volvomax]
Jul 25, 2006 (11:00 am)
I don't think this is the radiator fan running. It's some small, hidden fan which is barely audible.
Temperature humidity index is important to animals and for the performance of evaporative coolers (water fans) but is irrelevant to the cooling of an auto engine. It's the actual air temperature. Wind chill is similiarly irrelevant to the level of antifreeze protection required.
#1674 of 1905 Re: XC70 just keeps on trucking [jim314]
Jul 25, 2006 (11:08 am)
Well, there are 2 fans that can run.
One is the radiator fan.
The other is the interior climate control fan.
This runs approx one hour after engine shutdown, it is designed to clear water out of the evaporator.
#1675 of 1905 Re: XC70 just keeps on trucking [volvomax]
Jul 25, 2006 (11:40 am)
Thanks for that info. I had been trying to get into the habit of switching off the a/c compressor, but not the fan, a mile or so from home to clear out the evaporator. This is just one more hassle and a distraction. I'll stop doing it.
#1676 of 1905 Re: XC70 just keeps on trucking [volvomax]
Jul 25, 2006 (5:33 pm)
VolvoMax, you 'da man. I used to think I was nuts when once or twice a year the interior climate control fan was still running after I had gone into the house. Now I know why.
The radiator fan runs much more frequently after stopping. But you're right, the temp needle never budges.
#1677 of 1905 Volvo vs Saab; Wagons vs. Sedans
Jul 28, 2006 (4:46 am)
Our XC70 is getting long in the tooth and we are thinking about another one. (The inventory clearing deals in August, 07 as they launch a revision to the V70 should be awesome.)
When you compare the Saab 9-5 wagon with the Volvo V70 the pricing seems very close. The Volvo needs to be optioned up a little to match the Saab specs but when all is said and done they both have an MSRP of about 37K with leather, roof, etc. HOWEVER, only Volvo offers AWD and it isn't much more money. To get Zenons on a Volvo wagon you have to go for the XC AWD model and then pay $700 extra for them as an option. Zenons are not available on two wheel drive V70s. The Saab 9-5 while not available as an AWD does have a sport package (formely calle the Aero package) for about $1000 which gets you some neat sport seats, a tuned and lowered chassis, etc. Zenons for Saabs are available for roughly $1200 in a package.
All in all, it seems fairly clear. If you live in the snow belt the XC70 is preferable and if you don't, the Saab 9-5 wagon with the sport package sounds like much more fun than a two wheel drive V70.
This might change 360 degrees when you come to sedans. I think that a Saab 9-5 with the spors package would be much more fun than the standard Volvo sedan with about 55 more HP (260 vs. 208). I can't understand the atraction of an AWD sedan (if you need AWD, go all the way to a wagon and get some load carrying capability etc.). To my way of thinking the Saab two wheel drive sedan is the way to go, especially if you add the sports package with sport seats, the opional ventilated/cooled seats and zenons.
I didn't consider the R Series Volvo in the above because the price premium makes it hard to compare with the Saab.
Volvomax and others, what say you?