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Volvo V70, Wagon
#1647 of 1905 Re: 2004 v70 CPO for $20,000 with 20,700 mi--a good deal? [flightsimmer]
Jun 11, 2006 (8:18 am)
My wife's 2004 V70 base model (2.4L non-turbo, cloth, only extra 5-spd auto) bought new was recalled to change two large nuts which hold the front suspension in place. There had been some incidents where these nuts became loose and a front wheel folded back against the side of the car. Make sure this was done on this one, if it was subject to this recall.
The first offer from the dealer on ours, which was one of two like it on the lot, was $26,400 (8.25% sales tax and title, license fees extra), and we took it. This was lower than I thought I could get to. My wife asked the dealer to add the fixed roof rails and this was about $500 more, but total was less than $27,000 (+TTL). Maybe base models at that time did not move well in Dallas.
Based on our deal the price for this used one is way too high, it seems to me.
The probability is that this V70 would cost much more to maintain than a 2005 Camry. Ours has not given any real trouble. The catalytic converter was replaced at 15,000 miles under warranty. An element inside the cat became loose and noisy.
We use this wagon for carrying gear and dogs. In campgrounds, I have slept in the back of this V70 and in a previous 850 wgn. We get 30 mpg on the highway and 23 to 24 mpg around town.
Do you need a wagon? You should stick with the Pathfinder, unless you are putting so many miles on it that the fuel bills are truly outrageous. People are trading fuel guzzling SUVs without analyzing the costs of changing. However, the V70 would be safer in most crashes--better structure and side and head curtain air bags. My wife bought a 1996 850 wgn for safety and this '04 V70 for safety, fuel economy and sufficient utility. She also just likes Volvos.
#1648 of 1905 2001 v70 major issues
Jun 12, 2006 (4:49 am)
I have a 2001 v70 wagon.
I am considering buying a new 2006 because of the following issues. Has anyone had the same problems?
* left turn signal shorts out all the time.
* headlights burn out frequently
* temperature gauge never registers right temperature
* pvc issues/emissions light on all the time
* need new AC at 94k
* had engine pulled because of possible sludge issues. Switched to synthetic oil. There was no oil in the pan. Turns out volvo changed the engine in 2001 which has caused oil buildup I recommend every volvo owner post 2000 switch to synthetic if they have not already.
#1649 of 1905 Re: 2001 v70 major issues [lhurlburt]
Jun 12, 2006 (8:30 am)
We've had none of those problems in our 2004 V70 2.4L 168hp with 5-spd auto (19,000 mi on odo). The cat converter was replaced at no charge under warranty at 17,000 mi when it became noisy--diagnosis was an interior element became loose.
I had the original oil replaced at 4000 mi with Mobile1 10W-30 and have used Mobile1 10W-30 ever since. The Volvo dealer changes the oil and filter at 7500 mi intervals at no charge (for first 3? years) and would use semi-synthetic Castrol, but I supply 6 qts of Mobile1 10W-30 each time at my expense. Last time I gave them Mobile1 "Extended Sevice" at about $6.30/qt so about $40 incl tax. I thought perhaps using synthetic was an unnecessary expense on my part, but given your experience maybe not.
Toyota had a big problem with engine oil systems blocked by sludge, apparently due to overheating of conventional oil in the head. Your report is the 1st one I have see of this problem in a Volvo.
#1650 of 1905 Volvo V-70 Turbo
Jun 27, 2006 (1:43 pm)
I am starting to look around for a new car. I am thinking the V-70 Turbo.
I would like to know before I walk onto a dealer lot what the owner's manual says about how often the oil needs to be changed in this car?
#1651 of 1905 Re: Volvo V-70 Turbo [davidinaz]
Jun 27, 2006 (3:13 pm)
The 2004 manual specifies a 7500 mile oil and filter change interval for the various turbo engines and for the naturally aspirated engine. The manual doesn't specify a standard service schedule and a severe service schedule like on some other cars I have owned. Motor oils are much longer lasting than formerly, especially synthetics.
We use Mobile1 in our 2004 V70 168 hp 2.4L non-turbo. I take it to the Volvo dealer at 7500 mi intervals to satisfy the warranty requirement and provide a case of Mobile1 10W-30, appropriate for the Dallas TX climate. The oil looks great even after 7500 mi, and the consumption is negligible. However, we don't drive the V70 hard. With Mobile1 "extended interval" oil you could probably go 10,000 mi to 15,000 miles or 1 year, but even full synthetic oil is so cheap compared to the total cost of ownership of a Volvo there is no incentive to stretch the interval.
#1652 of 1905 Re: Volvo V-70 Turbo [davidinaz]
Jun 28, 2006 (4:28 am)
Which "turbo"? Volvo offers several turbos: a "light pressure" turbo, a "high pressure" turbo, and the T5 engine which may have the same level of boost as the high pressure turbo but has other features which increase the HP beyond that.
I'm sure the extra power of these turbos makes a difference in the "driving experience", but the non-turbo is sufficient for me.
It seems to me that it would be prudent to use full synthetic oil in any Volvo engine especially if it is driven hard, and especially in a turbo charged model, assuming that engine oil is used to lubricate the bearings of the turbocharger.
#1653 of 1905 Re: Volvo V-70 Turbo [jim314]
Jun 28, 2006 (8:30 am)
The "high pressure" turbo is the T5, although that model is no longer made.
Currently you have the V70 2.4, V70 2.5T, and the V70R.
Full synthetic isn't required, even by the R engine.
Volvo mandates a synthetic blend which is more than sufficent to protect the engine.
If you really want to use a full synthetic, go ahead but it really isn't necessary.
#1654 of 1905 Re: Volvo V-70 Turbo [volvomax]
Jun 28, 2006 (9:47 am)
I know that, except for certain towing, Volvo doesn't specify the use of synthetic engine oil, and my Volvo dealer uses Castrol synthetic blend which I would get for no charge under the free scheduled maintenance deal. The words "Volvo Recommends Castrol" is even molded into the oil filler cap.
But I nevertheless spend an extra $40 on each oil change to provide the dealer with Mobile1. I got concerned when Toyota had a sludging problem with conventional oil in some of its engines, and we hope to keep this car for a long time. I'm willing to spend the extra money for full synthetic when it almost certainly isn't necessary. We are only putting about 8000 mi per year on the car, and I have the oil changed annually at the dealer.
I put a trailer hitch on this V70 and do some towing (so far about 1000 lb gross trailer wt) in hot weather. Under the section "Towing a trailer" (pg 102 of 2004 Manual for V70 and V70R) the manual states: Volvo recommends the use of a synthetic engine oil when towing a trailer over long distances or in mountainous areas.
#1655 of 1905 sludge problem 2001 V70 5T
Jul 05, 2006 (7:13 pm)
read with interest your info on sludge in V70 T5. have 53000 mi on 2001 car -1st owner -changed oil every 4-5000 mi and now have majjor sludge problem --are you aware of others with similar problems and any successful resolution with volvo in accepting responsibilty?
#1656 of 1905 Re: sludge problem 2001 V70 5T [oil]
Jul 06, 2006 (1:31 am)
What are the signs of sludging?
Would changing to thin synthetic (say Mobile1 5W-30) dissolve the sludge, or would some engine oil flush be in order, one of the commercial products or kerosene?