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#1524 of 1905 Re: 2003 V70 2.4 vs. 2004 4Runner SR5 for commuting in MD [merckx]
by swedishgirl
Nov 01, 2005 (6:02 pm)
Thanks for your reply! Do you think that the tires that the V70s come with are usually sufficient for every-once-in-a-while wintry conditions, or would you suggest that I get new ones? I have to verify with the dealership what tires are currently on there (brand, etc).
With the suggested and correct maintenance, do you think the Volvo will take me well over 150,000 miles? I would be putting about 30 miles on it per year. I would get the extended 6yr/100K mile warranty, but at the rate I'll be driving, it would reach 100,000 miles by end of 2007. I would have to finance the car for 5 years.
This would be my first Volvo. My family were always Saab people........and those suckers always used to last forever, lol!
Thanks!!
Nov 01, 2005 (6:16 pm)
I see Volvos all of the time with well over 200,000 miles on them...I am convinced that they are very durable cars...Moreso than even Mercedes,for example.
Did you mean your state won't allow STUDDED winter tires tires?
For peace of mind,many suggest getting winter tires mounter on cheaper steel wheels...if you have a garage for storage...
Front Wheel drive can accomplish wonders with normal all-season tires...But as I said,I've been in Tdewater my whole life.
Good luck with your decision....I admit i'm very,very impressed with the V70..I think everything came together with this one...
#1526 of 1905 Re: 150,000? [merckx]
by swedishgirl
Nov 01, 2005 (6:40 pm)
Yes, I think I meant studded tires........I'm not very skilled when it comes to tires but I know I read it somewhere and they must then have meant the studded tires.....
I have run some numbers and the V70 is definitely in the lead when you look at it on paper (maintenance, tire cost every 60-80K miles, etc).
They are going to fix the vehicle up for me (it had a few scratches) and I'm going there later this week to make a final decision. The amount they are offering for the 4runner is firm so it's basically up to me what I wanna do....... looks like I'll be a Volvo owner soon!
Plus, having 2 kids, the Volvo is definitely a leader when it comes to safety!!!!!!
Thanks again for all your advice!
#1527 of 1905 Re: 150,000? [swedishgirl]
by merckx
Nov 02, 2005 (5:18 am)
If you're not sure the offered price on that 03 V70 is a good one,post it here,and you can get comments on it..
#1528 of 1905 Re: 150,000? [merckx]
by swedishgirl
Nov 02, 2005 (11:50 am)
It's $21,995. It's got just over 26K miles on it.
They are giving me $1500 more on my trade in (4runner) than it's worth, so overall, I do think it's a good deal. (It was my choice to get more for my trade in or buy the V70 for less; I would like more on the trade in since I'm a few K upside down on it. It really helps me, because I'm not financing any of the upside down stuff.
The Carfax report shows no issues.
#1529 of 1905 Re: 2001 V70T5 ETM failure [ishanb]
by miele
Nov 02, 2005 (2:44 pm)
Hi ISHANB,
We have recently experienced the same problem, and it was equally scary. We took it to our trusty local European mechanic and it was ok while they had it and they weren't able to find anything wrong with it, but as soon as I got it back it started again. Do you know if Volvo have an official policy about this, because the car is out of warranty otherwise and the nearest Volvo dealer charges a fortune just to take a look at it! Hope you can advise. Best, Miele
#1530 of 1905 Re: 150,000? [swedishgirl]
by garandman
Nov 03, 2005 (7:53 pm)
Yes, I think I meant studded tires........I'm not very skilled when it comes to tires but I know I read it somewhere and they must then have meant the studded tires.....
Any good M&S rated AS tire - Michelin HydroEdge or Goodyear TripleTread, as two examples - should give you perfectly adequate traction. Even new Michelin X or another new tire should give you enough tread to do a good job in moderate snow.
Those tires are very good in rain, adequate in snow, and last a long time.
#1531 of 1905 Re: 2003 V70 2.4 vs. 2004 4Runner SR5 for commuting in MD [swedishgirl]
by rsojka
Nov 04, 2005 (5:35 am)
My wife drives a 2002 Volvo V70 with the touring package (It's as base as they had at the time). We live in Massachusetts and she was pleasantly surprised by it's performance in the winter. According to her, it sticks to the road. We also liked the self dimming rear view mirror and the stereo. Of course, neither of these were on our list of important items (safety, reliability, and fuel efficiency were).
You didn't ask for anything beyond the winter driving experience, so you can stop reading here if you'd like. If you are still here, I must say we aren't sure if we are going to keep the car much longer (and we're drive it into the ground people). We have observed every "negative" issue listed for this vehicle. Right out of the gate, it had a problem with the chip that is part of the cruise control/traction system. The dealer replaced it with no problem. We asked if this was a defect and they replied "We've replaced more than one." You will get used to this answer, and probably come to believe that Volvo doesn't really do recalls.
We've also had the phantom electrical problem. It indicates that a light bulb is out, but you can't find the bugger.
The trim around the sunroof falls down for no reason.
The leather is kind of crispy and I question how long it will last without cracking.
The brakes needed to be replaced when the car had 22,000 miles on it. We are not race car drivers. Our Sienna, Camry, Prism and Integra all got nearly 60K out of the brakes. Volvo will tell you they are performance brakes. Whatever you choose to believe, it's going to cost you.
The headlight bulbs went within one year. They were replaced without problem, but it's another trip to the dealer.
When we first got the car, we had to bring it back to have the third row seat installed. We were given a loaner V70, which died in the parking lot due to a bad transmission. I said I was suddenly worried, but was told I should play the lottery because this never happens to a Volvo. We have not had any problems with our transmission, but it looms in our mind. Our neighbors also had a V70 and got rid of it when confronted with a $2,500 repair bill for the transmission. Their impression is that the maintenance and repair bills get bigger as the mileage increases.
We bought the Volvo because it was one of our dream cars. Safety and reliability were what we wanted, not flash. If we had to choose between our 2002 Volvo with 30K and our 1998 Sienna with 97K, we would get rid of the Volvo without a thought. It's an okay car, nice even. For $36,000, we just expect a lot more than we got.
#1532 of 1905 Re: 2003 V70 2.4 vs. 2004 4Runner SR5 for commuting in MD [rsojka]
by stmss
Nov 05, 2005 (10:57 am)
It is unfortunate that you need to be worried about reliability with any car so new, and of course for the money Volvos cost, perfection (or close to it) both in the product and service, should be expected.
However, we have had the opposite experience with our 99 V70. It is pushing 100k miles and other than being on the third mass flow meter (this is unreasonable) it has been great. No electrical problems or fit or finish or mechanical ones. The brakes (fron rotors) were only replaced this year although we are on the second set of pads on the front. Yes we replaced front lights in year one (but also did on my new Saab and Toyota I owned) but next set of bulbs lasted 4 yrs (and with DRLs).
I agree that these cars will not be cheap to fix as they get older but likely no different than any other premiun european brand. I am beginning to think the way to go on any of these premium cars is just lease them under warranty and get a new one every 3 yrs or so - if budget allows.
#1533 of 1905 XC 70 wagon power window problems...
by charlesw3
Nov 06, 2005 (9:59 am)
My 2001 wagon with 60k miles on it has been giving me fits lately with the power windows - have taken to shop for rear left window failure - $500 later (a motor and bar-lift mechanism (?) replaced) it still doesn't work. Also, now the driver window won't go down all the way, goes down after raising if I don't hold the button up, and just 20 minutes ago (on a Sunday afternoon, of course!) my right rear window won't go up! I am the second owner and had no problems with this for the first 10k that I owned it.
Any advice? Thanks!