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#41 of 803 Regarding Post 40 by ray71 Jan 04, 2001 (3:06 pm)
Rod the unauthorized extras were an unrequested gas additive and an unrequested oil additive. I use Mobil 1 and Mobil specifically recommends that no oil additives be used with this product.   As to Volvo's response--their representative said they had no control over the hourly rate charged by dealers.   As to comparable vehicles a friend who drives a $150,000 Ferrari said he payed less for his first oil change than I did. My Suburban costs slightly more than my Volvo Cross Country and its service costs are 1/3 that of the Volvo.   Just for further comparison today I contacted Volvo relative to obtaining workshop manuals for the 2000 Volvo Cross Country. In the past, my last two Volvo, an order form for shop manuals came with the vehicles at the time of purchase. Not this time and now I know why! The full set of manuals for the 2000 Volvo Cross Country can be had only electronically and for the miserly sum of $1700.00--yes the decimal point is in the correct position. Shop manuals for the Suburban are less that $200. It is one thing to pay for quality--it is another to be ripped off. The Volvo shop manual section covering the suspension and brake systems is $400.00.   I will not sell this Volvo till it starts giving me problems but I believe one should consider total ownership costs when buying a vehicle. I "assumed" the costs of maintenance would be similar to my 93 and 85 wagons which had been comparable to my Toyota's. My assumption made a "donkey" of me. I hope my messages to the list will allow others to fully and accurately evaluate the costs of owning a Volvo.
#43 of 803 New Host by tara Jan 18, 2001 (2:15 pm)
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#44 of 803 buy the XC by pickybuyer1 Feb 16, 2001 (8:11 pm)
I've spent months comparing the Mercedes, Lexus, Acura, and Subaru. None of them put it all together like Volvo did with the XC. The Mercedes was stark and disappointing (and the sales rep was snotty), the ride not much better than my Grand Cherokee LTD and with less performance. The Lexus is a very unattractive and feminine looking car and I could not bring myself to be seen in one. Same with the Acura which is just another SUV. The 6 Cylinder Subaru is a dog off the line and my 6 foot frame felt crammed into the seat (which is really small). Something about having the top of my head rub the headliner that is not appealing. The car does move once you get the rpm's up. If I had felt comfortable in this car I probably would have bought it. The extra money I spent on the Volvo is worth it to me for the increase in comfort.   A local dealer Volvo gave me a new XC off the lot for an overnight test drive, had less than 20 miles on it. I took it back to them with almost 200. Since I spend a lot of time in a car I wanted to see how it felt after a few hours behind the wheel. What a ride!!! And those seats are so incredible. It was snowing and icy and I couldn't resist the big open parking lot near my home, try as I might to get the thing to spin out, it just wouldn't. I took it up a mountain pass and the motor didn't even feel like it was working hard. My Jeep would have been downshifting frequently to maintain the 75mph, not the Volvo.   So it's taken me almost 4 months and a lot of soul searching trying to decide if I really wanted to spend 40K on a car, but I pick up my new XC this Saturday for $800 over invoice.
#45 of 803 Volvo V70 XC a suitable replacement for an SUV.... or not quite? by schulhof Mar 20, 2001 (8:48 pm)
I am looking for some advice from current V70 AC owners.   I am considering replacing my current UV (when the time comes) with a Volvo V70 C. Unlike most suburban UV owners I do actually make use of some of my Isuzu Troopers talents. In the summer I tow a 2500 lfs boat and trailer, and in the winter I take it up in the snow where the four wheel drive is an asset.   I would really like to replace the "truck" with a sport wagon, but it has to be strong enough to do what my Isuzu does routinely. Wouldn't mind something that handles better, rides nicer, looks better, and gets 20 mpg! All of which the Volvo should do.   So the Volvo seems to provide me with the room and carrying capacity I need. It also has the four wheel drive. My question is does anyone tow a trailer with theirs? Is this a fantasy or a reality? On Volvo's website they did note a 3300 lbs towing capacity and show a optional tow hitch. The dealer I went to today did not even know what the towing capacity of the vehicle was and quoted me something closer to 4500 lbs. OOPS!   Also of interest, I have to admit, is quality/reliability concerns. I had really positive impressions of Volvo, but quite frankly, the feeling here on Edmunds is pretty anti-Volvo. Mostly complaints about quality and reliability. My Isuzu Trooper has 85k PERFECT miles on it. Nothing has broken, I did the rear brakes at 80k miles, and it weighs close to 5000 lbs! My other two cars are a BMW 318i and a Mazda Miata, again no real problems so far with either. So am I going to be alarmed at the dealer attention a Volvo apparently requires?   I really appreciate opinions! Any and all please fire away.   Thanks.
#47 of 803 I bought the XC! by norge003 Apr 05, 2001 (9:14 am)
Like pickybuyer1 in post #43 I spent a long time looking at different suv's/alternatives over the past 4 months and I finally decided on the XC. I've had it now for 5 days now and I am thoroughly impressed with the overall package. It rides like a luxury sedan,the brakes are unbelievable, the seats are without a doubt the most comfortable I have ever riden in and I must say that the styling blows me away. I find myself walking around the XC admiring it from every angle! Being in Michigan and of course being that it is the month of April, winter is officially over so I really don't have an opinion yet of how the XC drives in the snow so that will have to wait. The only negative thus far is that I have been averaging 14.5 mpg for around town driving. Admittedly, I haven't yet started to worry about that number as I haven't driven more than a couple of miles on the highway, so the jury is still out on that one(and I must add that I am NO lead foot either). There is a 'slight' lag off of the line when I depress the accelerator but it really doesn't bother me at all considering that the XC really gets up and goes after it.   I ended up with the Java/ taupe, dark brown interior, into package, cold weather and touring. Additionally, I got the windows tinted this morning and I feel that this already sleek vehicle appears MORE stealth. I also utilized my Father's z-plan through Ford so my price was 1% below dealer invoice....a pretty good deal in my opinion.   If I can answer any questions for anyone please let me know.......happy Volvo driving!
#48 of 803 by canadiancl Apr 16, 2001 (6:29 pm)
We looked at an '01 XC yesterday. Overall, quite impressed with it, especially the versatility of the 40/20/40 rear seat. Even the styling seems "sleek", if that is possible in a wagon. Didn't even mind the cladding, except maybe the one on the nose. Some of the option pricing were a little high though, $300 for metallic paint? C'mon! Just a couple of questions for all you XC owners: 1. The width is over 73". That's getting into SUV and van territory. Is the width a problem when it comes to city driving and parking (especially)? 2. The standard keyless entry/alarm system: As far as I can determine, it has an auto-relock feature. Is it a full passive-arming system? Does it have audible arming/disarming indicators(ie. beeps, horn)? Hood & hatch protection as well? Does it only arm if all doors/hood/hatch are closed? The salesman said there is an LED but it only lights up at night. What's with that? So in daytime there is no indicator that the system is armed? Thanks for any info.
#49 of 803 by canadiancl Apr 17, 2001 (1:49 am)
I guess only time will tell if the '01 XC turns out to be reliable and problem-free. But how about rattles and squeaks? Has anyone had a XC long enough to say whether this vehicle is prone to rattles and squeaks?
#50 of 803 by simple Apr 19, 2001 (1:08 pm)
My family has owned several Volvo wagons and I loved the 98 XC wagon but just can't bring myself to consider the new one. Although I don't mind the look of the V70, I find the XC to be an extrodinarily ugly car. I despise the cladding, particularly when it is a contrasting color to the paint.   We're getting ready to replace our '98 BMW 528 sedan (97K) with a wagon. Are there any XC owners out there who think (or thought) their cars are ugly but were able to overcome it? We're leaning toward an MB E320.

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