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#297 of 346 Re: 325 wagon vs new 5 series [whiby]
Jan 14, 2005 (2:23 pm)
I've been looking at either an Avant or 325xit wagon. My concern with either is the amount of stuff they can actually carry. My wife and I are expecting our first child in the spring so we need to carry a stroller, etc. I don't want to wait for the redesign and would welcome your comments as to just how useful this car truly is for carrying cargo.
#298 of 346 Re: 325 wagon vs new 5 series [jaman]
Jan 17, 2005 (8:46 am)
The load carrying capacity with the rear seats up is quite good.A folding type stroller would be no problem but if you wish to carry additional other large containers your stacking will have to be well thought out.With the rear seat down i carried a six foot step ladder quite easily with the hatch closed.The carrying capacity of the 325xit is probally the least effective selling point but the rest of the vehicle is a 10.My own observatios suggest that Both the Avant And the VW Have slightly Larger Storage capabilities But are not as much fun to drive.
#299 of 346 325i wagon rear thumping sound
Jan 25, 2005 (10:21 am)
as i step on my brakes i can hear a thumping sound on my rear wheels is this a typical problem on wagons? sometimes i can feel a slight jerk.....anyone has the same problem? thank you.
#300 of 346 5 series wagon totaled
Mar 02, 2005 (9:48 pm)
I need new wagon immediately. Had stick. Want to stay with stick. Had snows on the 5. Should I go with the Xit or it?
#301 of 346 driver leg room in 3-series wagon vs 5-series
Mar 10, 2005 (3:13 pm)
I am 6'4 and a half. I'm in the market for an AWD wagon -- either a BMW, Audi, VW, or MB.
I have yet to test drive a 3-series BMW, but I am told they are tight on leg room. Any hope of a lengthened "L" version?
Is the 5-series any better? I might hold out for the new AWD 5-series if it is substantially roomier than the 3-series.
Any other feedback on the other makes I'm consdidering would be welcome.
Mar 11, 2005 (4:22 pm)
Like Sapes at "To AWD or not", I'm in Nor California and considering buying a 2002 iT vs. xiT. Don't do much snow driving but like the idea of safety in wet conditions (especially for the wife and kids), but honestly found the xiT slightly underpowered -- though frighteningly good on the curves. A friend says the rear wheel drive bimmers have a real tendency to skid in rain. Any thoughts? Is there a noticeable difference in (a) handling, (b) acceleration between the iT and the xiT. (Incidentally, I've been looking for a month and have almost never seen manuals in either configuration.) Any suggestions would be most welcome!
#303 of 346 Re: iT or xiT [mmmmisha]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Mar 11, 2005 (7:27 pm)
All that is just wrong...
I don't have a wagon, but I do have a RWD 325i with sport package.. and, just today, I drove a 330xi as a service loaner.. in the rain..
All newer 3-series BMWs have stability control.. Getting them to skid in the rain takes some real work.. The AWD models don't seem to have any advantage in wet-weather handling over the RWD. In fact, the extra weight from the AWD, and the higher ride height make the AWD handle a little worse...
And, add about 0.5 seconds on your 0-60 run for AWD... plus there is a gas mileage penalty..
Unless you need AWD for winter weather, stick with the RWD models... The manuals are noticeably quicker, but probably hard to find in a wagon..
P.S.: I live in the midwest.. I have winter tires on my car... My wife drives it to work every day.... snow and all... No AWD needed..
#304 of 346 Re: iT or xiT [mmmmisha]
Mar 17, 2005 (2:13 pm)
I'm in northern Cal also, and have been sort of watching the used market for a stick xiT.....they are very rare, a stick xiT is something the dealers just don't seem to order. I'm still going back and forth between an xit and subaru legacy gt.
#305 of 346 Re: iT or xiT [squirtdad]
Mar 20, 2005 (12:12 am)
From my understanding, the xit wagons are not as plentifully made in general. I guess there's more of a preference for the new x3, and automatics in general. Sticks are usually a rarer creature in general.
Keep in mind, if you buy a new(er) BMW, all maintenance will be included, and can be extended up to 100,000 miles. You'll just be responsible for the tires/rims and inbetween oil changes. Subaru sometimes offers maintenance coupons, but the rest is really up to you...
Kyfdx, just curious. You said that you have a rwd bimmer, live in the midwest, and with snows haven't had any problems??? I've heard (which is why I went with the xit) that bmws are notoriously bad in the snow. During one of the blizzards, I had a loaner rwd wagon with a sports pkg. I got stuck. Well, what few cars didn't?
I had a blast driving the rwd wagon when the snow cleared, though. It was much lighter, and I could really feel the zoom-zoom from the rear.
On the other hand, the greatest pleasure I've had driving my own car is in really bad snow, and ice. It was a totally joy to drive it back from Philly, and watch everyone else struggle as the snow outbeat the ploughs through the Turnpike. It was like glue to the road, not one skid!!! On another night I even snuck out in the middle of real nasty ice to test it. No prob., either....
Otherwise, it's not as fun these days, and most certainly, the gas mileage on this car has been pretty similar to that of a thirsty suv.
#306 of 346 Re: iT or xiT [cargal2]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Mar 20, 2005 (9:20 am)
The key.. winter tires..
I also have the sport package... I wouldn't venture out in a dusting of snow with the stock tires...
But, with the winter tires, it does great... Not as good as AWD, of course, but better than most FWD with all-season tires...
The most limiting variable is ground clearance... When the snow gets up to the front spoiler or sidesills in parking lots, you are in trouble..