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Replying to: shawmou (May 08, 2009 5:44 am) |
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Replying to: nippononly (May 07, 2009 2:38 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2009 7:35 am) But to be fair you can get a Fit Sport stick shift for $17,5. And if they will discount it at all you can get it at invoice for $16,5. So it is not really a $20K car unless you want the ESC, which is only available packaged with the NAV. But if, as I did with my latest purchase, you definitely want AWD, you basically have no choices but the Impreza and the SX4, which is a cute little sucker and a good value given its low price, but not in the same league as the Impreza IMO. And the Matrix AWD, which I distinctly dislike anyway, has really gone up in price for the AWD. Stickers of the ones actually on the lots are in the $24K range. With my OBS buy, I am going to try to commit to no more front-drivers in my future. Don't know yet if I can make that stick......
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Replying to: nippononly (May 08, 2009 4:43 pm) Coopers are nice but cost too much optioned up. I'd want the GPS just to get the speedometer relocated to in front of me. Plus premium fuel even in the base engine (who knows why with such a non-performance engine).
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 11, 2009 10:39 am)  The 2.0 in the Mazda3 doesn't really "sip" gas. My sister has one (a sedan of course) and only pulls high 20s, which is where I am at with the OBS with a LOT more torque and another half liter of displacement. They could offer a 2L Mazda3 hatch for other reasons though: offer it with the base package like the sedan and achieve a nice low price for folks who prefer 5 doors to 4. So what if Subaru were to some day bring over the JDM 2.0 for the Impreza? I might be into that if there were a substantial improvement in fuel economy, but then I would expect it to be slow, as it is not FAST even now. Strong, a good highway cruiser, but not particularly fast. I think part of the reason Impreza is a much stronger seller these last 18 months than ever before is because the price has stayed relatively constant for years now, while the market around it has jumped up in price, helped first by the Mazda3 in 2004 and then by the new Civic in 2006. By keeping prices steady, Subaru has pretty much erased the AWD "premium" for Impreza now.
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Replying to: nippononly (May 11, 2009 12:10 pm) Last time I checked they (Subaru) had a 2.0l in Japan that made 156hp, though I'm not sure about the torque number (it was probably listed in nM anyway). Now that the 2.5l is making 170-175hp they may think about offering a smaller engine on the lighter cars. I think it would make sense. |
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Yes. All Coopers run on premium gas. It is the requirement. ateixeira is right. Once you add the options it's easily over $30,000. |
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As soon as I go for the 2.9% financing, Subaru starts a 0% promotion, 60 months and all, for the OBS. Should have waited a little longer, but who knew..... I had an idle half hour the other night and went looking for any reviews specifically of the OBS, and has anyone else here ever tried that? It's an impossible task! 98% of all Impreza reviews are of the WRX or STi, and the remaining 2% are devoted exclusively to the base 2.5i. Two of the principal interior complaints in those 2.5i reviews - the steering wheel and shifter plastic - are resolved in the OBS with its leather wraps. I did find one review of the '98 OBS, which brought me back memories of my first one (a '97). A couple of months back I saw the woman who bought mine, she still has it and it has over 230K miles now. They keep on tickin' if you take care of them. Of course, that '97 had the very fabulous 2.2L engine. 
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Replying to: nippononly (May 24, 2009 10:23 am) Bob |
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Replying to: nippononly (May 24, 2009 10:23 am)  I did write a letter to Mazda and they sent me a gift card to purchase some accessories. Write a nice letter to SoA, it can't hurt. One stamp earned me $100 in accessories. Rubber floor mats, a cargo net, and maybe some touch-up paint, most likely. Hint: be nice, tell them you're a returning Subaru customer, kill them with kindness.
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