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PS by nippononly
May 07, 2009 (2:38 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 07, 2009 10:23 am)

The Fit I could have bought for the money I paid wouldn't have had ESC, one thing I'm glad to have on the new car since I will be going to the snow a lot. It's nice that Subaru is putting VDC on all the Imprezas now.
 
I was out in heavy rain on Sunday driving some canyon roads, but the car never slipped or did anything untoward, and I never saw any indication that the VDC had kicked in. I am assuming that a light flashes on the dash if the VDC is invoked, right? So the OBS has amazing grip in the wet, what with me trying to intentionally get it to slip!
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Impreza Outback Sport - terrific value by shawmou
May 08, 2009 (4:07 am)
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I bought the OBS for my son two months ago. Since he is in college I’m driving it trying to help to break it in. My comparison experience telling me that OBS has the best values around. Especially the safety features. If you pay attention to the safety feature everyone of them are standard. Not like Honda Fit. You have to get the Sport model with Navigation System in order for you to get the traction control. What a rip off.
 
Many of my co-workers praise the style, the color combination (sage green) and the details that Subaru has paid attention to it. I’ll have a piece of mind that my son is driving the OBS for many years to come.
 
Subaru – safety is not an option.
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Impreza OBS engine clung sound by shawmou
May 08, 2009 (5:44 am)
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I bought the Impreza Outback Sport two months ago. Every time I shift to Drive (cold or hot engine) when the car starts to roll I hear a “clung” sound from the engine compartment. Since it happened consistently I thought it is the normal sound. Does anyone have the same experience like me?
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Re: Impreza OBS engine clung sound [shawmou] by nippononly
May 08, 2009 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: shawmou (May 08, 2009 5:44 am)

I hear it too, just once each time I start the car, when I have finished backing out of the driveway or parking space and start to move forward down the street. I think it must be normal since it is so consistent, and I remember reading something in the manual but I forget what it was, that is self-testing and may be heard when you first start the car. ABS brakes maybe? I just can't remember, but check the manual, it is in there.
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Re: PS [nippononly] by ateixeira
May 08, 2009 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (May 07, 2009 2:38 pm)

You know how I feel about the Fit - great car for $16k, but at $19-20k to get a loaded one with VSC there are simply far more substantial cars for the price.
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Re: PS [ateixeira] by nippononly
May 08, 2009 (4:43 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2009 7:35 am)

Well, if you will settle for FWD, there's the Mini Clubman and the Mazda3s hatch around $20K, not to mention you are closing in on the GTI and Honda's own Civic SI.
 
But to be fair you can get a Fit Sport stick shift for $17,5. And if they will discount it at all you can get it at invoice for $16,5. So it is not really a $20K car unless you want the ESC, which is only available packaged with the NAV.
 
But if, as I did with my latest purchase, you definitely want AWD, you basically have no choices but the Impreza and the SX4, which is a cute little sucker and a good value given its low price, but not in the same league as the Impreza IMO. And the Matrix AWD, which I distinctly dislike anyway, has really gone up in price for the AWD. Stickers of the ones actually on the lots are in the $24K range.
 
With my OBS buy, I am going to try to commit to no more front-drivers in my future. Don't know yet if I can make that stick......
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Re: PS [nippononly] by ateixeira
May 11, 2009 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (May 08, 2009 4:43 pm)

I'd like to see a Mazda3 5 door with the 2.0l engine. The sedans come with the smaller engine. That way they'd have a fuel-sipping hatch.
 
Coopers are nice but cost too much optioned up. I'd want the GPS just to get the speedometer relocated to in front of me. Plus premium fuel even in the base engine (who knows why with such a non-performance engine).
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Re: PS [ateixeira] by nippononly
May 11, 2009 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 11, 2009 10:39 am)

I think the NA Coopers run regular unleaded now, don't they? It's just the turbos that run premium? I could be wrong, but something in the back of my mind is telling me that.
 
The 2.0 in the Mazda3 doesn't really "sip" gas. My sister has one (a sedan of course) and only pulls high 20s, which is where I am at with the OBS with a LOT more torque and another half liter of displacement. They could offer a 2L Mazda3 hatch for other reasons though: offer it with the base package like the sedan and achieve a nice low price for folks who prefer 5 doors to 4.
 
So what if Subaru were to some day bring over the JDM 2.0 for the Impreza? I might be into that if there were a substantial improvement in fuel economy, but then I would expect it to be slow, as it is not FAST even now. Strong, a good highway cruiser, but not particularly fast.
 
I think part of the reason Impreza is a much stronger seller these last 18 months than ever before is because the price has stayed relatively constant for years now, while the market around it has jumped up in price, helped first by the Mazda3 in 2004 and then by the new Civic in 2006. By keeping prices steady, Subaru has pretty much erased the AWD "premium" for Impreza now.
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Re: PS [nippononly] by ateixeira
May 11, 2009 (12:53 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (May 11, 2009 12:10 pm)

I'm pretty sure even the base engine wants premium, though I'm not sure if it's required or merely recommended. Same for the Smart ForTwo, oddly enough.
 
Last time I checked they (Subaru) had a 2.0l in Japan that made 156hp, though I'm not sure about the torque number (it was probably listed in nM anyway).
 
Now that the 2.5l is making 170-175hp they may think about offering a smaller engine on the lighter cars. I think it would make sense.
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MINI Cooper runs on premium by shawmou
May 12, 2009 (10:03 am)
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Yes. All Coopers run on premium gas. It is the requirement.
 
ateixeira is right. Once you add the options it's easily over $30,000.

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