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Replying to: nippononly (May 03, 2009 2:02 pm) I know you've been shopping around for ages, so you must feel relieved. The Matrix had uncomfy seats, correct? I think that was your primary beef. The OBS is a strong value, in fact I'm sure you paid Honda Fit prices and ended up with a much more substantial car with a 2.5l engine and AWD. 
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 07, 2009 10:23 am) The seats in the Matrix are terrible, as is the seating position (minivan style, with seats with front edges that rise up so high that pressing the clutch to the floor is very difficult). But that's not all, the e-throttle is extremely annoying because there is a substantial delay between pressing the gas pedal and the engine responding, and it plays hell with shifting a manual, especially when you are trying to rev-match. Apart from that, the interior tackiness just grows and grows on you until it is depressing getting in the car. The factory stereo (the optional upgrade, mind you, not the base unit!) has terrible sound quality - everything is muddy and there is no bass. The steering gives you no road feel at all. And I was up to 3 warranty repairs on that thing, and it hadn't reached 30K yet! I am hoping I can still count on Sube to be totally reliable, as my others have been. Next thing for me is the car was delivered to me with some sort of rear valance that attaches to the bumper askew and kind of hanging down. So the Sube dealer where I bought it is working with a body shop to get a new one ordered and installed. I am told it will be covered under warranty and should only take 20 minutes to install, so that's good. Hopefully that takes place early next week. Until then it looks a little ugly, but not too bad. Should have caught it when it was delivered to me on Saturday, but it was raining and I was in a hurry to be somewhere..... |
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 07, 2009 10:23 am) I was out in heavy rain on Sunday driving some canyon roads, but the car never slipped or did anything untoward, and I never saw any indication that the VDC had kicked in. I am assuming that a light flashes on the dash if the VDC is invoked, right? So the OBS has amazing grip in the wet, what with me trying to intentionally get it to slip!
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I bought the OBS for my son two months ago. Since he is in college I’m driving it trying to help to break it in. My comparison experience telling me that OBS has the best values around. Especially the safety features. If you pay attention to the safety feature everyone of them are standard. Not like Honda Fit. You have to get the Sport model with Navigation System in order for you to get the traction control. What a rip off. Many of my co-workers praise the style, the color combination (sage green) and the details that Subaru has paid attention to it. I’ll have a piece of mind that my son is driving the OBS for many years to come. Subaru – safety is not an option. |
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I bought the Impreza Outback Sport two months ago. Every time I shift to Drive (cold or hot engine) when the car starts to roll I hear a “clung” sound from the engine compartment. Since it happened consistently I thought it is the normal sound. Does anyone have the same experience like me?
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Replying to: shawmou (May 08, 2009 5:44 am) |
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Replying to: nippononly (May 07, 2009 2:38 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 08, 2009 7:35 am) But to be fair you can get a Fit Sport stick shift for $17,5. And if they will discount it at all you can get it at invoice for $16,5. So it is not really a $20K car unless you want the ESC, which is only available packaged with the NAV. But if, as I did with my latest purchase, you definitely want AWD, you basically have no choices but the Impreza and the SX4, which is a cute little sucker and a good value given its low price, but not in the same league as the Impreza IMO. And the Matrix AWD, which I distinctly dislike anyway, has really gone up in price for the AWD. Stickers of the ones actually on the lots are in the $24K range. With my OBS buy, I am going to try to commit to no more front-drivers in my future. Don't know yet if I can make that stick......
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Replying to: nippononly (May 08, 2009 4:43 pm) Coopers are nice but cost too much optioned up. I'd want the GPS just to get the speedometer relocated to in front of me. Plus premium fuel even in the base engine (who knows why with such a non-performance engine).
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 11, 2009 10:39 am)  The 2.0 in the Mazda3 doesn't really "sip" gas. My sister has one (a sedan of course) and only pulls high 20s, which is where I am at with the OBS with a LOT more torque and another half liter of displacement. They could offer a 2L Mazda3 hatch for other reasons though: offer it with the base package like the sedan and achieve a nice low price for folks who prefer 5 doors to 4. So what if Subaru were to some day bring over the JDM 2.0 for the Impreza? I might be into that if there were a substantial improvement in fuel economy, but then I would expect it to be slow, as it is not FAST even now. Strong, a good highway cruiser, but not particularly fast. I think part of the reason Impreza is a much stronger seller these last 18 months than ever before is because the price has stayed relatively constant for years now, while the market around it has jumped up in price, helped first by the Mazda3 in 2004 and then by the new Civic in 2006. By keeping prices steady, Subaru has pretty much erased the AWD "premium" for Impreza now.
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