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You are in the Subaru Legacy & Outback
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Subaru Impreza, Subaru Outback, Wagon
#2743 of 3121 Re: Updated '05 Side-Impact Impreza coming? [ericf1]
Apr 04, 2005 (7:41 am)
Honda was able to update their CR-V from 2004 to 2005 to pass the IIHS side impact test by simply adding side curtain airbags AND beefing up the door frames. They didn't need a complete body re-design.
Subaru did the same for the front crash by adding "donuts" (their term) at key points on the frame to add body strength. They did this mid-year a few years back.
So apparently there are sometimes some minor mid-production changes that can greatly improve crashability.
I'd love to see Subarus address this issue. An Impreza hatchback or Outback Sport are both on my current short list of cars I'd like to have.
#2744 of 3121 Gas Mileage
Apr 04, 2005 (11:43 am)
I'm thinking about getting an Outback Sport in the next few months. My only beef with the car is the gas mileage. I know, it's AWD and you can't expect the same as a FWD car...of course. But Subaru lists 23/30mpg for the MT. I've seen reports of people getting just 22mpg average. I've always had small fuel efficient cars (27mpg and up), so getting the Subaru might be a bit of a downer on fuel economy for me. (I'm also considering the Mazda3i sedan)
I was just wondering if anyone of you with the OBS can let me know how your doing gas mileage-wise. Oh, and let me know if you have an AT or MT.
Thanks! I'd really appreciate the info!
Apr 04, 2005 (12:38 pm)
Nice car, but you should really compare the OBS to the Mazda3s, with the 2.3l.
To be honest the boxer has more torque than even that engine, but with AWD things even out a bit. The 2.0l is not going to feel fun after driving the other 2.
Apr 04, 2005 (12:41 pm)
My 2004 OBS gets an overall average of 25, with the AT. With all the snow we get here, like the 2 FEET we got this weekend, winter averages 22-23, summer is 25-27. For the benefits of all-the-time AWD, that works for me.
#2747 of 3121 OBS vs Mazda 3i
Apr 04, 2005 (12:49 pm)
Well, my post wasn't really about comparing cars...I do see your point, but, I'm not considering the Mazda3s...so why should I compare the OBS to that? Both cars are fun to drive (3i, OBS)...I'm just concern about gas mileage with the OBS.
Actually if the 3i came in a HB I'd probably be sold on that, but I'd rather get a smaller engine and save the money on gas with the i, and it doesn't come in a HB model.
Anyway, I was simply wondering what mpg people are getting in the OBS.....
Apr 04, 2005 (12:51 pm)
Buy what you like.
Fuel costs are only a tiny portion of the equation. If you knew you'd be happier but had to spend an extra $3 per week on gas, wouldn't you? I sure would.
Apr 04, 2005 (1:03 pm)
Oh, I commute a lot to work...it'd be much more than an extra $3/week. If it was about $3....heck, there'd be no issue.
If I actually only got 22mpg with the subaru...driving about 75 miles a day (ugh!) and currently spending about $2.40/gallon (gotta love living in the San Francisco bay area) ..actuall I paid $2.48 the other day.....
Doing a quick calculation... I figure I'd save around $456/year with the Mazda3i (at around 28-29mpg) than the Subaru if I was only getting 22mpg. That's $456 I'd rather spend on something else.
Thanks Dan for your quote. 25 is sounding a little better...and up to 27 in the summer...that's sounding much nicer. Any other OBS owners?
#2750 of 3121 Re: OBS vs Mazda 3i [grack]
Apr 04, 2005 (7:35 pm)
AWD AWD AWD!!!!! I would go for the RS Sport over the Mazda3 5-Door even with the slightly lower gas milage. By the time you equivalently equip it (add ABS) it's the same price anyways and you still don't get AWD.
Hey, but then again, the low-end Legacy is very close in price to an automatic RS Sport too. Anyone sat in the Legacy? I would guess it has nicer seats. Too bad I can't afford the Legacy hatchback.
Apr 05, 2005 (7:00 am)
That would put you in the low 20s, you can get an OBS for mid teens and RS Sport for high teens.
#2752 of 3121 OBS in mid-teens?
Apr 05, 2005 (7:06 am)
Where can you can an OBS in the mid teens? Seems priced equivalently with the RS Sport here in the Boston area.