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Subaru Impreza, Subaru Outback, Wagon
#1062 of 3121 What's the difference...
Sep 14, 2001 (7:43 pm)
Between the Outback Sport and the Impreza 2.5TS Sport Wagon (both 2002)?
Here's what I can see: (OB S ; 2.5 TS SW)
Turning circle: 35.4 ; 33.5
Wheels: Alum. Alloy ; Steel(?)
Tires: 205/55R16 ; 195/60R15
Width: 67.3 ; 66.7
Height: 60.2 ; 58.5
Track(front): 57.5 ; 57.7
Clearance: 6.3 ; 5.9
Curb Weight: 3050 ; 3045
Roof Rack: std ; opt
Fog lamps: std ; opt
Rear power outlet: yes ; n/a
MSRP: 18,695 ; 17,495 (-1200)
For comparable equipment on the 2.5TS:
fog lamps + 15" alloy wheels= +863
Also, where the Outback has a silver metallic color, the 2.5TS has Blue Ridge Pearl.
Are there any other differences? Cosmetic, perhaps, or suspension tuning? Differences in demand or dealer invoice?
Now, I already own a '01 Forester S, and I'm not about to buy another car, but this question has been nagging me for a while. If there's one thing Subaru has in its lineup, it's a LOT of overlap (and if there's two, it's the amazing multiplying Outbacks...)
It seems to me that the Outback is a slightly better deal with those 16" wheels (and higher clearence).
Sep 15, 2001 (6:35 pm)
OK, the OBS is a grand luxe version if you would call it that, of the TS. It has cruise control, map lights in the front, as you said, bigger wheels; I'm not sure if the TS has wheels or wheel covers, but they are smaller. If you search back thru these messages the last several months you'll find information as alot on this topic has come up before. For me, I gotta have the cruise control.
I thought someone said the suspension was different. You may find out about this if you search back.
#1064 of 3121 Brekke, calling brekke....
Sep 15, 2001 (6:36 pm)
if you're lurking around, girl, check in and let us know you're OK. It just dawned on me that you live up New York way. Let us know you're still there....
Sep 16, 2001 (7:22 am)
Other than what's been mentioned:
• The TS does have 15" steel wheels with wheel covers, whereas the OBS has 16" wheels and higher-performance, lower-profile tires.
• The OBS has a step pad on the rear bumper and a rubber cargo mat—very nice to have if you have a dog to transport...
• The OBS is the only Impreza to have an outside temperature display on the instrument panel. That's feature I really like.
• The OBS has a slightly raised heavy-duty suspension.
I think the OBS is a very nice and complete package, whereas the the TS, while still nice, is lacking features I would want.
#1066 of 3121 GanzFlow update
Sep 16, 2001 (7:46 pm)
Well, I got the AMSOIL filter in the mail and installed it. It was a bit messy, but not too difficult. There's not too much of a difference, but I can feel it a little bit. The filter seems a lot nicer than the stock one though.
After driving my friends around a little bit, they all think that the GanzFlow makes the coolest sound ever. When you're inside of the car while accelerating quickly, it makes the car sound (and feel) like a #!*$?* monster. It's really awesome. I also like how it only makes the sound when I accelerate fast. I really dislike those stupid people that buy special exhausts that just make their car sound cool.
Sep 16, 2001 (8:47 pm)
Robert: Good assesment. I agree that the OBS is a pretty nice package for the price.
Zach: I agree with you also about the Ganzflow and the sound at wide open throttle. It makes you feel baaaad when that thing starts to growl... WAAAAAAaaaaahhhhh......
Sep 16, 2001 (8:48 pm)
Still waiting, check in girl, let us know you're there and OK... come in Brekke...
Sep 17, 2001 (8:55 am)
We did an off-road run this weekend and Dennis took his Outback Sport along. It was mostly unimproved roads, which meant loose sand. We had quite a hoot driving about 15 miles in the AM, another 7 miles or so in the PM.
I'll try to get photos up today. I should have some of the OBS because I was right behind him and took some photos of the trails.
PS The narrow Outback Sport actually carried an advantage over the wider vehicles that were scratching up against tree branches and such.
Sep 17, 2001 (10:32 am)
Here is the whole Pine Barrens album.
Photo #13 shows Dennis in his Outback Sport, which was awesome in the sand. The non-SUVs actually ran at a quicker pace on the easier trails, rally-style.
His more narrow cabin and light weight were advantages, and his is the 2.2l.
The Forester was able to shine in the water crossing (#16) and in deeper ruts (#32).
Be sure to check them out.
Sep 17, 2001 (2:06 pm)
My friend Andy has a nice mazda- I don't know what model it is, but it's an automatic, four seater with leather seats and it's pretty quick. One of their higher-line vehicles. Him and I have been egging each other on for a while as to who would win in a race. Not a straight-away drag type of race, but a race from one place to another in the suburbs, choosing any route you want to take. Well, we finally did it on Saturday this weekend. We were at his house, and decided to race to my house, which is normally about a 10 minute drive.
1.No running reds
2.Don't kill anyone
3.Try not to flip your car or run into anything
4.All other rules of common sense apply
It was actually incredibly scary, because it was about 9:00 at night, and there were still a bunch of cars on the road and people walking around and getting into and out of parked cars on the side of the street. Before I say any more, I just want you to know that Andy is a pretty crazy kid, so I was worried to get too close to his car in fear that he'd cut me off (or someone else around us) or try anything too stupid.
We were really flying around curves, weaving in and out of other cars, and I was afraid we'd either hit another car or a cop would see us and pull us over. Fortunately, neither of those things happened.
Bottom line is I whooped his pathetic Mazda butt. If it weren't for a red light I got stuck at, I would have beat him by over a minute (it ended up fairly close, cause he caught me while I was waiting at the red). Shifting through those gears with the throttle wide open felt sooo good. After the race, he said to me "man, your car takes turns like the road's still straight." I laughed. I was killing him on those curves. I love my Suby. After Andy admitted defeat, we both vowed not to race again for at least a couple months, because it's waaaay too dangerous (and very foolish).
By the way, we made the 10 minute drive in under 5. That's including the time we were stopped at reds. It was craaaazy.