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#703 of 742 by dwcolorado Jun 16, 2004 (9:24 am)
Yeah, I'm thinking about buying an Outback XT, but just want to drive one first (dealer didn't have any in stock yet). I imagine it will be the same as the Legacy GT, but with a little worse handling due to ride height.
#704 of 742 Re: [dwcolorado #701] by feilo Jun 16, 2004 (12:03 pm)
Replying to: dwcolorado (Jun 15, 2004 5:38 pm) Don't blame you. If the Legacy GT 2.5T was available back in Dec 02, it would definitely be a NO-BRAINER for my purchase then. I am enjoying my FWD 1.8T Passat wagen but it took a bit of modding (& $) to get it to this point - mainly chip, suspension and wheels - which is (almost) equivalent to the GT, minus the AWD of course. Oh, well ...   I'd go with the Legacy GT if you don't have to deal with ground clearance. The OB will take the edge off the performance package from a handling prespective IMHO.   LOL whatever you go with - Turbo's rocks!
#705 of 742 I don't know if it is considered a wagon, but by taft4 Jun 17, 2004 (2:01 pm)
I owned a 2003 Subaru Forester 25 XS Premium for 18 months (12,000 miles) and was glad to get rid of it. This car was faultless and it never needed one adjustment other then the recall I knew about when I bought it. I purchased it after testing four other vehicles, nevertheless I missed a few of its faults in the testing.   I found it to be noisy, it rode like a truck, had lousy interior lighting when opening the doors in the dark, and the AT shifter was so weird that even CR commented on it. The gas mileage was okay (20.1 over a total of 12,500 miles). Of course it had some nice features too. Perhaps best of all was its low depreciation. Trading in any new vehicle can hit you in the pocketbook and my cost over 18 months was $7200.00 which was not too bad.   With fingers crossed because of reliability concerns I switched to a Passat GLX V6 sedan and so far things have worked out well. The GLX is very quiet, rides smoothly, has great 8-way power seats (driver and passenger) and handles much better (subjective opinion) than the Subaru. Both vehicles were powerful enough for me, easy to get up to speed on expressway ramps, and quick enough for passing on two-lane highways, so I could never figure out the need for turbos. As for 4-wheel drive, it is an absolute waste in flat city driving, the driving most people find themselves in. FWD, even in our sometimes snowy midwest is good enough.   Juice, who sometimes appears on this board, more often on the Subaru boards, had some helpful hints for me when I had the Subaru, or else I might have dumped it sooner.   We all have different wants with the cars we purchase, so I sometimes pity the vehicle manufacturers who have to try and satisfy us all. Replies to this message: daisymae (Oct 08, 2004 6:57 am)
#706 of 742 by ateixeira Jun 17, 2004 (6:20 pm)
The GLX V6 probably costs $10 grand more than the Forester, it had better feel more refined. :o)   The new Legacy 2.5i and GT compare more closely to the Passat, have you been in one? It's a couple of steps up from a Forester in terms of refinement, NVH, materials used, etc.   Any how, congratulations and good luck with your Passat.   -juice Replies to this message: dbyang (Jun 21, 2004 11:41 am)
#707 of 742 by taft4 Jun 18, 2004 (8:13 am)
Juice:   The MSRP on the 2003 Subaru was $26,802 and on the Passat it was $31,430. I got a bigger discount on the Passat and so the actual net difference between the two was about $3,000.
#708 of 742 by ateixeira Jun 18, 2004 (11:36 am)
Street prices for 2004 Foresters are pretty low right now, you can get a base X model for $19k, auto still under $20k. Even a premium package with leather doesn't break $23k.   The turbo costs more, but no Passat is that quick, not even the W8.   Of course prices vary a lot by region, Subies cost more in Canada, for instance.   -juice
#709 of 742 Re: [ateixeira #706] by dbyang Jun 21, 2004 (11:41 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 17, 2004 6:20 pm) what is NVH?
#710 of 742 by ateixeira Jun 21, 2004 (11:44 am)
Sorry, it's an industry acronym for Noise, Vibration, and Harshness.   -juice
#711 of 742 NVH by norrmanndo Jul 12, 2004 (6:17 am)
Subaru has improved greatly in this area over the past 15 years. My Subaru from the 80s vibrated so much that bolts kept vibrating out of the engine and falling off. Once it died on the highway. But I could keep it idling if it was floored. So my cousin got out and looked under the hood. I started it up and had it floored and it was only slowly idling. he looked in and gasoline was shooting out of the carberator. So I cut the engine. It turned out a plug had vibrated itself out of the carb and fallen out. Since we couldn't find it, I tried to find a bolt that was the same size, but couldn't so I wrapped a bolt in electrical tape and forced it in, then wrapped tape around the carb to keep it in place. We were able to get back on the road. At least it didn't blaze into a fire like some 03 CRVs. Another time a spark plug vibrated and popped out. The previous owner had buggered the threads so it wasn't quite at tight as it should have been, but the vibration of that engine was unbelievable.
#712 of 742 by ateixeira Jul 12, 2004 (6:43 am)
Try the new boxer 6, you need the tach to even realize the engine is on!   -juice

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