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#11 of 292 Dogman by a6wagon Dec 18, 1998 (6:52 pm)
My audi is a great car. my only issue is performance. it has been trouble free since day 1. If performance is the key, then stay focused on the Volvo. the price point is better as well unless roominess is not an issue. if not, then the a4 avant series is excellent. AWD safety and good performance.
#12 of 292 re BMW from a6wagon, why truck vs wagon by a6wagon Dec 18, 1998 (7:07 pm)
reBMW: I have owned several sport utility vehicles in the past. when the grand cherokee first came out, my dad and I were on that band wagon. We then went to Land Rover discos because every one and their grandma had a jeep. I then went to the new Toyota 4Runner in 96. After driving those, I wanted to be different. I got the performance(somewhat) and versatility I was looking for, but the space wasn't there. My wife refurbishes old furniture and has put that on the back burner because many of the pieces she finds can't fit in the back of the wagon. After driving the new land cruiser there is a difference in the experience. First off the cruiser would beat my 97 a6 and the new 99 a6 avant 0-60, hands down. As far as room is concerned, my wife can put her finds in the back without worrying about wagon space constraints. Yes, the gas mileage is worse on the cruiser. Yes there is a longer stopping distance from 60 and yes, it is extremely slow in the slalom; but for overall versatility and utility, not to mention my 2 year old son who likes to climb, i'm in favor of the truck. I also do not like minivans which would be my only other choice. I hope this gives you some insight into why I would pick the truck over the sport wagon. Popular Mechanics summed it up best, "The Land Cruiser is the perfect blending of the qualities of a Lexus GS 400 performance sedan and Ivan Stewart's off-road Toyota race truck. In all situations, on or off road, it is capable, comfortable and solid. We found it the best." Besides, they are not that far apart in cost. A6 avants are hot in the chicago market and no dealers are dealing. most vehicles are coming in fully loaded which puts the sticker at 44K. I can get a land cruiser for 47K on a short sell over the web. You tell me what you would do? Wouldn't you go for more bang(size and utility) for your buck?
#13 of 292 bang bang bang bang by reBMW Dec 18, 1998 (11:04 pm)
how appropriate to use the phrase bang for buck these days. your situation has me intrigued, but i wouldn't choose the truck as my new vehicle. instead i would ask if you have considered getting a used panel van ($$$ can be very reasonable) to support your wife's fledgling antiques business. with that particular need satisfied, you would be free to choose a vehicle with utility yet still very fun to drive. to further my rationalization, you would then not have to worry about large oopsies in your new fancy vehicle when hustling the furniture around. 'course my suspicion is that you enjoy your trucks and really just want a new one
#14 of 292 Dogman by Dogman Dec 21, 1998 (7:36 am)
Why not buy a Winnebago,gut it and drop a semi tractor trailor engine in it? Where will this need for huge SUV's end? I drive by the BMW dealer almost everyday and that wagon sure looks sweet.The price has me hoping I'll win the lottery and it does not have awd but I'm going to include it also when I check out the Volvo and Audi.....I've taken an ice driving course in Colorado and have determined that awd and smart driving(slow down)can be relied on in bad weather.Chains should be used on 2wd vehicles in snow and all vehicles in severe conditions(hills or unplowed roads etc.)Since I only use the 4wd 4-6 times a year on ski trips the BMW will get serious consideration and have the guys chain up for the $20 they charge.
#15 of 292 You Are Correct!! by a6wagon Dec 21, 1998 (7:15 pm)
reBMW: you assessment is right on. A cheap van would be good for wife, who swears it does not matter what she drives. . . .But if I were to offer her a 85 Chevy Astro, I don't think she'd like it. And yes, I do want a new truck, Plain and simple. It is time. The wagon experiment was fun, but now it's back to the fad of the day, big ol' gas guzzlin', road hoggin' sport brutes!!!
#16 of 292 danielm by danielm Dec 22, 1998 (12:09 am)
a6wag, how bad does the 5 series suck in the snow, and is that with or without chains on the back wheels? having just purchased the car i'm keeping it for now. i'm also still quite fond of it. jtrent i agree with you, driving a truck (had a 92 4runner) was cool for about 6 months and soon thereafter became a laborious process.
#17 of 292 danielm by danielm Dec 22, 1998 (12:21 am)
dogman, good point. i have the 95 525t and love the darn thing. i've lookded at the 99 and bmw has done a swell job with the new wag. and indeed with only the use of 4wd 4 to 6 times a year, you should considered the 5 wag vs a truck.
#18 of 292 5 Series in the Snow. . . . by a6wagon Dec 22, 1998 (12:58 am)
danielm: my wife drove it and was someone freaked out and thanked the good Lord up above for AWD. this was of course without chains. they are illegal in Illinois. my brother loves the car, but hates it in winter. i thought that the ASC option was supposed to help with those weather issues, but it doesn't. please don't feel bad about your purchase. i would get a 94 or 95 wagon in a heartbeat, especially the V8. its an awesome wagon!!!!
#19 of 292 outback4me by outback4me Dec 23, 1998 (9:43 pm)
i want a bmw wagon, but they cost so darn much. please...someone...are they not really so expensive!!! =-) i love them beamers. thanks
#20 of 292 danielm by danielm Dec 25, 1998 (2:32 am)
a6wag, point well taken. i live in northern california, so not much worry about snow being an issue as far as day to day driving is concerned. a bit of rain and that's pretty much it. but i do go to the sierras during ski season and that is of course my primary worry. otherwise the car is a gem, truly so, never for a second would you think that you're driving a staywag

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