Last post on Jun 02, 2012 at 6:17 PM
You are in the Saab 9-5
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Saab 9-5, Wagon
#913 of 1081 Re: 9-5 [jrosasmc]
Apr 22, 2005 (8:54 am)
I guess it depends on your definition of "solid". We felt that the specific parts of the 9-5's ride that we liked was the way it handled cornering, and a zippier feeling engine. The Volvo did have a plusher feeling ride, and was a little quieter, but in the end the Saab won out for us.
Reliability data seems to consistently place Saab ahead of Volvo, although neither are in the same class as Japanese brands. The interesting thing that I found was that both Saab and Volvo seemed to do better than most German car brands in reliability among German car owners. Again, Saab did better than Volvo in this poll.
May 06, 2005 (4:57 am)
Looking for a midsize wagon and the 9-5 caught my eye. Haven't test driven yet but I found a potential problem when I sat in a sedan last night. Even with the seat lowered all the way, the head clearance seems to be minimal and in this position, you lose all of your thigh support. Any thoughts or similar experiences?
#915 of 1081 Re: Headroom [sschriber]
May 06, 2005 (7:51 pm)
Did it have the 8 way adjustable seats? Tilt the seat back. The front should lift up to give you all of the support you need. I'm 6' 2", and find the seats in my Aero Wagon real comfortable.
#916 of 1081 SAAB problems - can they fix them?
May 11, 2005 (8:57 am)
I agree with previous comments about their product line. 9-5 Looks today like it is 10 years old before it leaves the showroom. Outside, inside, and under the hood, especially the latter. I read somewhere that in 20 years or so about half of vehicles will have some version of AWD. Perhaps overblown, but in the "upscale" market (however you want to define it) AWD will be king very soon. Similar with engines: who cares if power output from 4 cylinders is the same: 6 or 8 always sound better (and it really does have better "culture of work"), same for 5-speed vs 6 or 7 speed transmission (or CVT). It is marketing, as it was with AMD vs Intel processor speed (AMD 1 GHz was faster than Intel 1.2, but nobody listened). Insisting on solutions that were new 25 years ago, decent 10 years ago and pretending that nothing changed is not going to get the anywhere.
The pricing is also big issue. I see this practice of high list and high incentives/rebates serving dealers only (it gives them more potential play room), perhaps not even them. Everybody else loses. Uninformed customer does not even know that they can get 3 or even 6 large discount, so they don't even bother checking. Informed customer laughes at the sticker.
New 9-2X is a perfect example: first messed up the product that had great potential (just see sales of Impreza/WRX in previous years); instead of really reworking it and getting something really significant inside (like "Swedish" interior, negotiate Sti engine for Aero trim, etc.), they just changed sheet metal (nicely, I may admit) and slapped the badge. Then they slapped totally ridiculous price premium (esp.on Linear trim, but also for Aero) for virtually no other value than new sheet metal and badge. Result? Now I read reports of selling prices being close or even below the original. They ended up hurting themselves and Subaru as well.
As much as I find Saab's styling or interior compelling, not knowing the real price is a major annoyance. Not to mention those poor folks who would buy sticker in the first month of the model just to learn about the incentive few months later...
#918 of 1081 9-5 fuel economy
Jun 09, 2005 (6:08 am)
We're looking at the 9-5 Arc wagon, automatic.
What is the real world fuel economy for these vehicles?
#919 of 1081 Automatic Transmission problems
Jun 12, 2005 (7:19 pm)
I Purchased a 2001 9-5 Turbo wagon approx. four months ago. Ex lease car with 54K miles and fairly complete dealer service records (appears well maintained). After putting 3500 miles on the car, I noticed what I thought was a a tire separation problem or a wheel bearing noise. Trans shifts and operates perfectly. The bearing noise is slowly getting louder (still sounds like a wheel bearing-whump-whump?). Took it to a Brake and Tire specialist and was told it was in the transmission. Then went to a local independent Swedish car specialist and was told the same thing. Anyone out there with a similar problem?
#920 of 1081 Re: Automatic Transmission problems [hoseman1845]
Jun 12, 2005 (11:46 pm)
I think i might be encountering the same problem. Do you get it at certain RPM? I get a sound around 2,000 RPM which is also supposedly from my transmission.
#921 of 1081 Re: Automatic Transmission problems [saaboy]
Jun 13, 2005 (6:01 am)
The noise I'm hearing is at any road speed from 30 MPH on up. Noise frequency seems to be related to road speed. The 4 mechanics that have looked at the car aren't sure of the exact location, (not right side or left but center. Trans but possibly differential? Sort of sounds like a weather forecast!! The Saab is now at the Saab dealer for a diagnosis. Enough of the sideshow - the circus begins!
#922 of 1081 Automatic Transmission problems
Jun 15, 2005 (4:17 am)
I thought I'd never use "Good News" and Saab in the same sentence but here it is. Took the car to the Saab dealer for diagnosis of what I was told was a transmission bearing failure. Turns out that my own original diagnosis was correct (wheel bearing). In and out of the dealership in one day ($297.88). I guess it pays to get a second opinion. Unless it's a Saab, then you may need four to six!