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Saab 9-5, Wagon
#865 of 1081 Saab Financial Lease
Dec 02, 2003 (5:26 pm)
I have a 2001 Saab 9-5 SE V6 wagon with 50,000 miles that comes off lease this month. The buy out price is $21,300 but Edmund's dealer retail price is $19,960. I would like to pay $20,000 but Saab Financial told me they won't take less than the lease agreement price. Does anyone have any experience negotiating with Saab Financial? I would be willing to pay the $21,300 if Saab would extend my warranty to 7 years/100,000 miles.
#866 of 1081 RE: Saab lease end
Dec 03, 2003 (1:41 pm)
Here are a couple of thoughts: Our first 9-5 was through a Chase lease. I had no interest in the price they qouted and they eventually came down. A three year old 9-5 ended up at about $18,500 but that was the original SE version with a 4.
One thing to consider if you want to buy this one out: Talk to you dealer about buying it back from them as a "Certified Saab". What happens is that the dealer takes the car back and after certification you get a good extension on your warranty. I think it takes it to 100K. The certification does cost though. You might be surprised and find the buy back from the dealer to be a similar price though. Never know until you research it.
PS.. I'd strongly recommend extended warranty wether thru Saabs certification or buying one on your own.
Dec 04, 2003 (4:45 pm)
i'll be in the same boat fairly soon. have the same wagon too. steel grey?
the only advice i've read (which is here at edmunds) is to move up the ladder until you get to a decisionmaker. the first level you get to can only spout the party line. if you can get to the right person, they might consider an offer greater than what the car would wholesale for.
my guess is that 50k is a lot higher mileage than most leased cars out there.
ours needed new brakes at 30k. how has your car held up?
Dec 05, 2003 (9:28 am)
Ours is an '02 with 22K not sure how close we are for Brakes. Our first 9-5 did need them around 30K if i remember but really that's pretty much the average for most cars.
My only dissapointent with the first 9-5 was an oddly worn rear brake rotor that had to be replaced. I should have argued that one for a warranty repair but didn't. If it happens again, I most definately will fight it.
Dec 09, 2003 (6:34 pm)
have never needed brakes that early on any vehicle.
based on the amount of brake dust on the wheels, i wasn't surprised though. the traction control uses the brakes too.
the new ones don't seem to make as much 'dust'.
Dec 10, 2003 (2:50 pm)
I went to the local Saab dealer who has a certified 2001 SE V6 Wagon, 45K miles for sale. The certification adds 2 years and 50K miles to the warranty. By the time I do the math, the certified car will cost the same amount as what I would pay to buy out my leased car. I drove the certified car. Three things I did not like: road noise (the pavement was wet), clunking sound when I pulled away from a stop, and alignment pulls slightly to the left. Either car is going to need new brakes and tires soon, so that is a toss-up. The dealer put in a new computer information display (CID), battery, and electronic fuel injection system. The car has been serviced every 10K miles (I serviced mine every 5K). It also has a new catalytic converter at 40K and front wheel bearing at 35K. Other than the CID, these are a lot more things than I have had to do to my vehicle.
I am not sure which way I may go. One one hand, the certified vehicle extends the warranty thru 11/2006 or 95K miles. On the other hand, I know what my vehicle is like.
Dec 10, 2003 (7:04 pm)
Slehrman, a new fuel injection system??? This car sounds like someone's lemon. It may have even been a buy-back. Have you considered running your OWN full detail (the ones the dealers give you are just summaries) carfax?
#873 of 1081 RE: slerman
Dec 13, 2003 (8:22 am)
I don't know if the Certified car your looking at was someone's lemon or not but I do have a comment or two about this particular car:
The "Clunking" sound you referred to is coming from the Fuel Tank. It's a problem that many owners experience in the 9-5. For some reason the design had this issue with a half to 3/4 full tank. Not all 9-5 owners had this. Saab had a fix that meant putting in baffles which reduced fuel capacity by a couple of gallons. We did NOT have this problem with any of our two previous 9-5's. If I had noticed it in a car I was interested in, I probably would have passed on it. Some Owners reporting this have been very annoyed.
If the dealer could not correct the pulling problem, I'd be concerned about the quality of their "Certification work" and future service work. I would expect a certified car to be Free of these issues.
Dec 13, 2003 (11:28 am)
The buyout for my '99 9-5 base model was $21,000. Chase was willing to come down $1000, which was probably the expense of taking the car back and getiting it to auction. I leased another one, this time from Saab Financial - much lower purchase at lease end. At 50,000 miles you may get tagged for the excessive wear in addition to the .20 per mile. Do the math and see how much the penalty would be - then figure out the purchase price. remember to subtract the mileage penalty from the agreed upon price. Also remember that you are buying a 50,000 mile vehicle, and not a trouble free new one! Donn