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Saab 9-5, Wagon
Jul 14, 2003 (10:49 pm)
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Saab 9-5 V8
-have ways of making you torque! That's the message from GM, which has recently unveiled an all-new lightweight V8 petrol engine that is set to find its way into Saabs and Vauxhalls from 2004.
The new 4.3-litre unit, here in development form in a Saab 9-5, produces 300bhp and nearly 400Nm of pulling power, making it one of the most tractable units in its class. Yet the all-alloy construction and plastic components mean it will weigh little more than a four-cylinder powerplant.
An innovative throttle-by-wire system does away with the usual accelerator cable to use a fully automated set-up. It proves quick yet predictable, with the feel of a conventional unit.
The engine is a keen performer, with its huge torque applied through a six-speed automatic gearbox. Yet even with the self-shifter, the V8 powerplant proves a handful in the current 9-5, with plenty of wheelspin and torque steer. Saab points out that these traits will be ironed out before production, while insiders hint the engine will be mated to a secret new 4WD system.
If so, Saab and Vauxhall's future looks exciting. The new unit is already earmarked for flagship versions of the Vectra Signum, and will also appear in the next-generation 9-5 and Vauxhall Omega - both due in 2005. Juergen Zoellter
Comments: 0 Article from: Auto Express
Jul 15, 2003 (5:36 pm)
In his exciting post, Buddahabman just increased the net worth of the average US SAAB dealer by 25%! Now they have something to sell. Volvo should watch out. Our XC70 five cylinder when loaded down with vacation gear on a hot day in July, IMHO isn't the match for a V8, any V8, even a 110K miles cast iron 318 Mopar in a Jeep GC, let alone a new ALU V8.
Jul 17, 2003 (12:31 pm)
me dealer told me that they couldn't discount the full $5k on a lease..... is that true?
I think I'm going to lease an ARC tonight...damn is it nice....
#811 of 1081 2004 l's, a's, ae's
Jul 18, 2003 (6:09 pm)
am i wrong, or is the hk stereo now optional too(or not at all)?
have an '01 se wagon (3 year lease). v6 discontinued, '04 decontented. linears too little, aeros too much. doesn't look good for next year, either way.
#812 of 1081 V6..V8..Vauxhall and GM!!?
Jul 18, 2003 (6:52 pm)
I don't see the enthusiasm with all this! It just means the Saab is about Dead! IMO
V8's are not SAAB! Vauxhall's and Opels aren't Saab. GM is planning a rebadged Chevy Trailblazer for Saab. GM fired about a thousand employees in Sweden and GM put the woman who was hired to dismantle Oldsmobile in Charge of Saab.
Saab may live on somehow but it won't be same appealing and unique company anymore. The whole thing makes me sad. Volvo has NOTHING to fear. They are kicking the living you know what out of Saab sales unfortunately. With the way GM is running this division, don't expect that to change anytime soon.
#813 of 1081 9.5 aero wagon with stick
Jul 19, 2003 (9:27 am)
I am very happy with my one week old cosmic blue swede aero wagon with the ventilation seats, on star and turbo. I hope it proves to be as durable as the '95 Volvo 850 sedan with 198K miles and the original clutch that I'm passing on to my college bound niece. Any suggestions for Nokian snow tires for CO, 15 or 16"?
Jul 22, 2003 (7:13 am)
did it....2003 Saab 3.0t....white/tan. I love it.
39,975 MSRP....paid $34,975....got $6500 for my 1995 Volvo 940T Wagon with 61K miles (no leather or sunroof).
too bad they are dropping the V6 next year...the 4cyl feels rough..idles rough....sounds like a 4 cyl honda.
They have 2003 95 Linear Sedans for $30K! gorgeous cars (even though they are 4cyl). I'd take a Saab 95 over a Passat V6 any day for that money.
Jul 24, 2003 (1:52 pm)
Funny, I used to have a Grand Sheltie, spitting image of Lassie, only smaller. Don't know if he would have liked the Saab or not, but he never had need for a cupholder anyway!
So Saab is chucking the v6 after what, 2 years? I haven't had a problem yet, and I do love the power. You couldn't pay me to drive the 2.3 linear, I drove one as a loaner car for 2 days and couldn't stand the vibration.
Guess that makes my Saab an interesting one-time experiment.
#816 of 1081 Relax dski, Have faith in GM & Saab
Jul 25, 2003 (8:00 am)
GM needs Saab as their Euro line. They aren't going to mess with the quirkiness of Saab less they want to kill the brand. They will share platforms with Vauxhall & Opel in Europe to bring over here, and some other tech form Subaru to save costs. The Saab stylist hopefully will remain. They need and they will try to keep Saab as a premium brand.
The V8 is an evolution, particularly if they make a larger footprint model. The feature they need the most is AWD to make the most of the turbo powerplants. I do hope they come with a 300hp
AWD 9-5 and 280Hp AWD 9-3, 250Hp AWD 9-2. I think they will to be competitive.
#817 of 1081 RE: buddhabman
Jul 26, 2003 (7:52 am)
Well.. the next two Saab Models are going to be:
A rebadged Chevy Trailblazer and a Rebadged Subaru.
Do you think this is NOT "killing a brand"? Add to that the fact that they have fired half the staff over at Saab in Europe. How are we to think they are serious about expanding the "Brand"?
Don't get me wrong, I want the Brand to succeed. But I was hoping they would leave the Good Stuff at Saab and fund it's growth, not take it over from Detroit.