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Toyota Celica, Coupe, Hatchback
#943 of 1560 Valve Clicking Normal?
Feb 12, 2003 (4:48 pm)
I'm hoping someone that visits these boards can give me some insight on valves. I have a 2001 Toyota Celica GT with 35k miles on it. The valves are adjusted using shims. In the morning when cold, the valves are pretty noisy before the engine warms up. Once warm, the engine sounds ok. The dealer insists that no adjustment is necessary and that the engine warranty is good until 50k miles anyway. My questions are:
1. What causes valves to click?
2. Is this normal for a car with so few miles on it?
3. Is there any possibility of the valves (or anything else) being damaged or the longevity of the engine being reduced?
Any insight is greatly appreciated.
Feb 13, 2003 (5:11 am)
DQ1, I am not innately knowledgeable about how the tops of these newer engines work. It has, however, been my understanding that overhead cam engines need periodic tappet adjustments, for which the customer is expected to pay. I only say that part because it sounds like rather than address the problem, your dealer is trying to avoid free warranty work. But if the engine does not sound like it did when new, I would investigate having this done. I prefer dealers in this case, because I have a biased view that they are best when dealing with these types of tolerances, and know more than anyone what they're doing. In your case I'm not sure. Did you speak to maintenance, or a salesperson? If sales, I'd just waltz over to maintenance and have this discussion with them.
About mileage...I'm trying to remember, but I think I had a tapping at 40k in my Integra. Had the tappets adjusted, and it sounded new again. Remember, although Toyota makes quality engines, these new engines are very sophisticated. Especially if you really push the engine, yea, I would expect periodic adjustments. At 35k it seems reasonable to me. Notwithstanding--I'm not making a long-distance diagnosis, just following up on what you have told us.
#945 of 1560 Thx Guitarzan
Feb 13, 2003 (7:12 am)
I've taken it to the dealer and at first they diagnosed it as needing an adjustment. I dropped it off for the scheduled appt. and when I went to pick it up, they told me the famous "this is normal and nothing needs to be done!" Needless to say, I wasn't too happy. I pressed the service manager to tell me how much it would cost if I had to pay for it myself and he finally told me $800 because these engines use a system of shims that I guess is difficult to work with (this is in stark contrast to my wife's Civic which costs $80 for a valve adjusment because it uses set screws and is very easy to adjust). I have now gotten Toyota customer assistance involved and I'll see where that leads. I tend to agree that I think they are trying to avoid costly warranty work. I have to say that I'm not totally impressed with the overall quality of this car. I think the accountants are having a little too much say in how the new Toyota's are being built And the kicker is the service manager told me that Toyota pays the dealership far more for warranty work than what the dealership charges customers. I must have been having one of those days where I had that "dumbest person on the face of the Earth" look going on.
Feb 13, 2003 (7:34 am)
I have a 2000 Celica GT, and I was thinking about replacing the factory standard antenna with the Honda S2000 antenna. I have heard of many 7th Gen Celica owners making the change because it makes the car look a lot better. But I also have read that the S2000 antenna doesn't screw on all the way and leaves a gap which causes for poor radio reception. Since the S2000 antenna only costs about $25.00 from the dealership and it should be pretty easy to change, I was thinking of giving it a try. If any one on here who has made the change or has known anyone who has, please let me know how it works. Thanks!
Feb 13, 2003 (3:30 pm)
Marylax, are you talking about a standard mast antenna? I would investigate a $40 electric antenna from a retail store. The hardest part is finding power, especially, trying to get the antenna to go up/down with the radio power. If you or you know someone who has done any sort of install, this could be a good option.
Feb 13, 2003 (6:50 pm)
Yes, I am talking about the standard mast antenna. I have heard that the elecrtic ones tend to break, so that was why I was thinking about the S2000 because it isn't operated by power. Do you think that it isn't a good idea to do the switch?
#949 of 1560 Wiper blades
Feb 14, 2003 (9:39 am)
Has anyone tried to find replacement wiper refills for the driver side of the new Celica (2000 up)?
It is 26 inches (or more likely 650 mm) long and the narrow width. I have readily found refills for the passenger side and rear wipers, but no one seems to make anything longer than 24 inches.
Am I stuck with going to Toyota for these?
Feb 14, 2003 (3:11 pm)
Marylax, that switch is cool by me. I just thought of this option to give you while you are still thinking about it
#951 of 1560 Re: Wiper Blade
Feb 14, 2003 (7:06 pm)
Wscc1, I use Bosch wiper replacements all around and they fit perfect. I can't remember the exact size of the driver's side, but the clearance between it and the passenger wiper is tight and I've never had a problem with the Bosch's. Whatever you do, don't wait to replace them. I've found that the windshield glass on the Celica scratches much easier than any other car I've had.
Feb 17, 2003 (12:33 pm)
This large driver-side wiper is a rare thing - I bought it from special auto store (Walmarts don't have right size), and it was about $16, even salesman was surprized...