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Toyota Celica, Coupe, Hatchback
#779 of 1560 2004 Celica
Aug 15, 2002 (8:35 pm)
Has anyone heard anything at all about the next generation Celica (2004)? I was hoping to get some solid information since it should come out late next year. Do you think Toyota would put an Inline-6 in the new Celica (same engine as in the IS 300)? If there is an additonal increase of torque and HP and taking into consideration its low weight, I'm thinking it'll kick some serious RSX butt. It would finally have the speed to match its fast looks. But that's just my humble opinion.
Aug 16, 2002 (4:58 am)
2004 should still maintain the changes for 2003 (fascia changes).
If we assume the usual 5 year cycle, a new Celica should be expected 2005.
Aug 16, 2002 (6:44 am)
I kinda doubt they would put a 6 in the Celica. They'll probably tweak an existing 4 to be more around 200 hp. But that's just my opinion.
Aug 16, 2002 (1:19 pm)
I would think Toyota would follow Honda's lead (LOL) and up the displacement from 1.8L to 2.0L or 2.2L. 200hp to match RSX probably a possibility.
Aug 16, 2002 (4:18 pm)
I can relate to Edmund's road test of the new Celica. I bought the GTS, subsequently got a 6-speed, and like it mostly due to the novelty. The car would be better with 25 lbs more torque and a 5-speed--one that requires less muscle. Despite the strangeness of the power setup, the car is a pure performer, and that's what makes me love it. I do have a squeak inside, and the blind spots stink. But I'm one of those that loves to drive, and I LOVE to drive this car, so all of the faults are forgiven. So, I'm one of the few who would still buy this car. The fewer that buy it, the cooler I look going down the road. Can't even iterate how many people tell me how cool this car is. Everyone, everywhere, wow! Maybe that is something that got lost in the article. I didn't read it carefully, but the looks really should be stressed.
Every pure performer---a car owning handling, steering, brakes, and weight---is going to be neglecting many other tangibles. No one should be upset about the review, but expect it. And don't get upset that these are reasons why the general public will shy away from the car. Those are the same people that envy the look, and comment on it every day to me
Aug 16, 2002 (4:21 pm)
By the way, although my car has only 14k miles---If some of the stuff on that list goes bad on my car, yes, I will start to miss Acura (Integra/CL). Honda's tend to have nothing go wrong with them anymore. At the same time, I realize that the radical new Celica design contributes to problems. You can't change a car, make it the coolest around, and use the most advanced metal stamping to create such a beautiful body, and expect the fit-and-finish to be perfect, even for Toyota. Still looks cooler than my buddy's ultra-cool black RSX-S in our parking lot.
Aug 20, 2002 (7:49 am)
Got almost 20k on my 01 w/o any problems. It gets driven hard and keeps asking for more. Pulling close to 30 with it daily. Over 30 on trips going around 85mph. No problems! I agree with ya guitaran. (are you a guitarman)?
Aug 20, 2002 (1:16 pm)
Been playing guitar for 18 years. Love that classic rock
#787 of 1560 Toyota has already said
Aug 20, 2002 (3:17 pm)
that while it be upping engine sizes and power ratings for a lot of model updates in the next two years, it will not put a six-cylinder in the celica, for which I am very glad! It would totally wreck the magic of this car to make it nose-heavy in that way. But they will up the displacement of the four, I am hoping to 2.2L...that should bring the power of the GT up to more like 175, with GTS at around 220, without substantially increasing weight.
And I agree with above post - it is unlikely that Toyota will bring in an all-new '04, since it has gone to the trouble of doing the "freshening" for '03, which it usually allows to run for the last two years of the cycle.
#788 of 1560 Next Gen. Celica
Aug 20, 2002 (6:51 pm)
Not to belabor the point, but am I the only one here who has heard that the next generation Celica will be coming out as a 2004 model?
I have read somewhere that Toyota planned to restyle the Celica after 4 years (rather than the usual 5) so that it's styling can stay fresh in this competitive segment. Can anyone else confirm this?
Anyway, whether Toyota decides to change the Celica in 2004 or 2005, I hope they don't make the same styling mistake like Acura did in the RSX--that is one godawful looking vehicle. I don't know what Honda/Acura was thinking. First they mess up and deep six the Prelude, then they mess up and discontinue the Intergra legacy.