Hi! I'm getting ready to buy a 2001 Celica in the very near future. This will be my first Toyota (actually, my first new car) and I was hoping someone might be able to answer a few questions I had.
First, for anyone who's special ordered a Celica, is it more difficult to negotiate a good price with the dealer for a hard to find configuration or special order than if I were to buy a car directly off of their lot? How flexible on price are the dealers in these situations? I have specific options I want and I don't mind waiting the time it takes for a special order to come in, but I don't want to bother with it if I'm not going to be able to get as good a deal as I would if I bought one off the lot. Secondly, how long do special orders usually take to come in?
Also, I was wondering exactly what benefit do the alloy wheels have over the wheels that come standard? I'm not sure this is something that I'll need, but I wanted to find out a little more.
I'll give you my 2 cents worth, since I'm one of the minority who did special-order a Celica.
As far as a good price, if you read all the various advice, like on this Edmunds website and others, you'll see that on the one hand, you should be able to get a good deal, because the dealer won't be paying any of the dealer holdback, i.e., something about the financing cost of them having the car on their lot. On the other hand, in my case I couldn't find but one dealer in this area (Philadelphia-area) who would bother to special-order it for me, so I was kind of stuck.
If they have had one on the lot for awhile, that they're paying finance charges on, you could probably get a better deal, I guess.
I ended up with a price that can be considered between 4.5% over invoice (if you count that freakin' advertising fee part of invoice) or 6.3% over the invoice as published on this website (and others). Not too bad, I figured.
I ordered mine on 8/30/2000, and picked it up on 1/11/2001, just over 4 months. They said 8 - 12 weeks, but also said they really have no idea, they have no control over it.
But I'm happy, I got exactly the configuration I want, and in my case I didn't need it in a hurry. Just wish I didn't get it in the middle of the winter with all of this snow!!!
I got the alloy wheels, simply because of the way they look, I have no clue about the benefit of them, if any.
Thanks for answering my questions! Gads! I don't know if I can wait four months or not. I guess I'll find out when I go to the dealer. The ones I've talked to seemed pretty desperate to unload the models they had on their lots so that might be a better deal for me. I had one tell me that it was "impossible" to special order from Toyota (which I knew wasn't true) and another who practically begged me to consider a GT 5-speed after I told him 3 times I couldn't drive a stick! Some of these dealers. . . sheesh.
Thanks again! Oh, I had another question. Does anyone have a carbon blue Celica? I haven't seen one. I love that color on the website but I heard that in reality you can hardly tell it from a black one. Is that true?
It is worth searching around to see if by chance a dealer has a Celica configured the way you want. Your dealer can do this via the internet, and essentially tell you whether cars built that way were ever available in your region.
What a COOL color! And ignoramus me...I "settled" for "absolutely red".
I read the article. I agree the power point is a little high. About operation: After 1 week of driving, I too felt that this was the car for me. Comparing to Integras: I will say 2 things: The drivetrain may be somewhat noisy, and there IS a need to keep low revs in order to keep cabin conversations. But once a driver gets over the fact that this is a little different, (yes, Acura does a great job of making the Integra a perfect balance of performance and passenger comfort) I think the serious drivers just enjoy the drive from there on out. I know I just pretend I'm in an F1 car, and that works well for me...