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#1093 of 1560 2001 Celica GT - love it...except....
Jan 22, 2004 (6:02 am)
I've had my '01 Celica GT for 3 years now, bought new off the lot. I love the dependability of this car (this is my first Toyota) EXCEPT I find this car very dangerous in heavy rains and snow. It is blown around easily and I feel as if I have no traction. I was never "scared" to drive in inclement weather before and now I find myself white-knuckling the steering wheel and sweating when I'm highway driving in wet conditions. Anyone else have this problem? Maybe it's the OE tires (Dunlops)? I'd hate to consider trading this car in.
#1094 of 1560 Celica in rain/snow
Jan 22, 2004 (10:09 am)
In regard to the Celica (I have a 2000 GTS with 60K+ miles) in rain and snow, think tires. The Celica is a particularly light car with wide (very on the GTS with 16" wheels)tires. An OEM, worn or poor quality tire will have its problems in the rain and the Celica seems to wear tires quickly. High performance (summer) tires, even the best, are hopeless in snow, go with a full set of dedicated snow tires for reasonable traction. The Celica seems prone to side winds more than any other car I've own - again the light weight in a relatively large car and probably the "slab" sides are factors. On the transmission (6 speed): worse I've ever had. It is OK for normal driving but the ratios (especially first to second) and action kill the car for spirited driving or autocrossing.
Jan 22, 2004 (4:12 pm)
In the above statements, there seem to be some problems with the Celica. Of course, everyone knows that there isn't a perfect car. But for the Celica owners, are those problems bad enough to recommend another car? If yes, which car?
Jan 22, 2004 (5:26 pm)
I don't think there is any problem once you've been warned: This car costs a FORTUNE in tires. The snow tires comment is right on. I have new Michelin Pilots, the best tire available, and yep, because they are performance tires, they are TERRIBLE on slick surfaces, and dangerous with any snow at all. So, figure 2 years per set of tires, plus dedicated snow tires. YES, I would after 3 years of driving it prefer a 5-speed, that would probably be a great tranny with my GTS engine.
Check out every car available, then lets discuss. The bottom line is you need to be happy. I don't think there is a better looking car out there than my red GTS. Despite the pitfalls, I still love approaching it each time in the parking lot, and driving away in it.
Jan 22, 2004 (6:03 pm)
Every time I look at my Red 00 GTS I find another paint chip. Anybody else notice the same? Maybe I should just quit looking close.
Other than that the car is fun to drive although it is not gonna blow to many cars off the road.
Jan 22, 2004 (7:29 pm)
FYI, my GT-S is a 2000 with about 43,000 miles.
I'd have to agree with the complaints about the lousy bad-weather handling, but really that comes with any sport car or sporty car. It's just a tradeoff you have to deal with: less weight = better handling, better power/weight ratio, but lousy winter handling.
Tnisace86, where in the US are you? Are you in an area that gets a lot of snow? I have all-season, semi-performance tires, which handle very well in rain, and semi-sucky in the snow and ice (though still better than the stock tires). If you live in the snowbelt and you can only afford one car, you may want to consider a subaru or something like that.
I still love my celica. It has a lot to offer and is really unique on the roads.
#1099 of 1560 Snow for tnisace86?
Jan 22, 2004 (10:12 pm)
I live in Colorado. Love skiing. Also love quick cars. So, I'm deciding between the Celica, Mazda3 and RSX.
Jan 22, 2004 (10:53 pm)
I own a 2003 Celica and agree with you and many other owners that the paint on these cars is about as thick as nail polish. I noticed front end paint chips within the first month I bought the car.The light, easily scratched plastic inside is also a bad thing but allows for the weight of the car to be around 2,425-2,450lbs. Very light for a car of this size and allows a 1.8 liter engine to be a decent performer because of power to weight ratios. But I really dont think light weight paper thin paint was used to save weight ,but actually just to be cheap and I think Toyota owners expect build quality to be excellent as this brand is usually. As for the 2004 I would love to get one before they are gone near the end of the year but this paint problem might keep me away.
Jan 25, 2004 (4:01 pm)
The RSX will have a lot of the same bad-weather handling characteristics of the celica since the general design philosophy is so similar.
The Mazda3 is a sweet little car. I'm surprised the Impreza is not on your shopping list. They're all great cars, and whatever your choice, I'm sure you'll love it and enjoy it. Good luck.
Jan 26, 2004 (3:58 pm)
Oops, I just looked at my post, and yes, I did forget to put the WRX on the list. I think that my mind is pretty much made up though. The other night, we just got roughly 3 inches of snow dumped on us within an hr or so, I had an absolutely nightmarish time driving through that muck. Probably going to go with the WRX, since it's the only one on my list with AWD.